EL160 High Temp Epoxy Laminating Resin mould laminating


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K.C.C - 12/26/2019 4:08:11 PM
Started with some smaler moulds again today .
ad some small high temp epoxy moulds made before and they had no problem and I remember I only used 1 layer gelcoat 

May try 1 layer gel coat then.i no when I have been trimming mold flanges with disc cutter gel coat has separated from second layer as if it has not bonded and Ian 100 percent it's not my lay up.

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Shaneer22 - 12/26/2019 5:44:30 PM
K.C.C - 12/26/2019 4:08:11 PM
Started with some smaler moulds again today .
ad some small high temp epoxy moulds made before and they had no problem and I remember I only used 1 layer gelcoat 

May try 1 layer gel coat then.i no when I have been trimming mold flanges with disc cutter gel coat has separated from second layer as if it has not bonded and Ian 100 percent it's not my lay up.


Same here thing when you trim moulds to part size you better use 1 layer to be sure . 
What parts do you make ?
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K.C.C - 12/27/2019 8:03:17 AM
Shaneer22 - 12/26/2019 5:44:30 PM
K.C.C - 12/26/2019 4:08:11 PM
Started with some smaler moulds again today .
ad some small high temp epoxy moulds made before and they had no problem and I remember I only used 1 layer gelcoat 

May try 1 layer gel coat then.i no when I have been trimming mold flanges with disc cutter gel coat has separated from second layer as if it has not bonded and Ian 100 percent it's not my lay up.


Same here thing when you trim moulds to part size you better use 1 layer to be sure . 
What parts do you make ?



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Shaneer22 - 12/27/2019 9:29:46 AM
K.C.C - 12/27/2019 8:03:17 AM
Shaneer22 - 12/26/2019 5:44:30 PM
K.C.C - 12/26/2019 4:08:11 PM
Started with some smaler moulds again today .
ad some small high temp epoxy moulds made before and they had no problem and I remember I only used 1 layer gelcoat 

May try 1 layer gel coat then.i no when I have been trimming mold flanges with disc cutter gel coat has separated from second layer as if it has not bonded and Ian 100 percent it's not my lay up.


Same here thing when you trim moulds to part size you better use 1 layer to be sure . 
What parts do you make ?



Fairing for my bike.

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Shaneer22 - 12/27/2019 9:30:21 AM
Shaneer22 - 12/27/2019 9:29:46 AM
K.C.C - 12/27/2019 8:03:17 AM
Shaneer22 - 12/26/2019 5:44:30 PM
K.C.C - 12/26/2019 4:08:11 PM
Started with some smaler moulds again today .
ad some small high temp epoxy moulds made before and they had no problem and I remember I only used 1 layer gelcoat 

May try 1 layer gel coat then.i no when I have been trimming mold flanges with disc cutter gel coat has separated from second layer as if it has not bonded and Ian 100 percent it's not my lay up.


Same here thing when you trim moulds to part size you better use 1 layer to be sure . 
What parts do you make ?



Fairing for my bike.

Just demolded tooling.

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Tooling seems to work fine ?
I'm making 4 little moulds today again with 1 layer gelcoat 
 pc nice belly from your bike what bike is it ? 

 also noticed to put down the gelcoat I get better results using this type of brush

Thats why I changed to  2 layers gelcoat I wanted first to put down a fine layer with these more stif brushes especially in the sharp corners of the split moulds .
I always did this with the unimould gelcoat so I can get the split corners airbubble free and afte rthat a second layer with a normal brush. 
But I now see my 3 moulds I made of high temp epoxy tooling with 1 layer having some minor air bubbles but no delaminating or my 4 moulds now with  2 layers no airbubbles but delaminating gelcoat so 1 layer it wil bee I think . 

will take some pics later 

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K.C.C - 12/27/2019 10:18:17 AM
Tooling seems to work fine ?
I'm making 4 little moulds today again with 1 layer gelcoat 
 pc nice belly from your bike what bike is it ? 

 also noticed to put down the gelcoat I get better results using this type of brush

Thats why I changed to  2 layers gelcoat I wanted first to put down a fine layer with these more stif brushes especially in the sharp corners of the split moulds .
I always did this with the unimould gelcoat so I can get the split corners airbubble free and afte rthat a second layer with a normal brush. 
But I now see my 3 moulds I made of high temp epoxy tooling with 1 layer having some minor air bubbles but no delaminating or my 4 moulds now with  2 layers no airbubbles but delaminating gelcoat so 1 layer it wil bee I think . 

will take some pics later 

I use angled fitchs from brewers paint shop stiffer so easier to use.put the tooling mold is in oven again  to do final post cure.the mold is a lot thinner in carbon it will be interesting how part will come out.will test Monday.

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Shaneer22 - 12/27/2019 12:42:21 PM
K.C.C - 12/27/2019 10:18:17 AM
Tooling seems to work fine ?
I'm making 4 little moulds today again with 1 layer gelcoat 
 pc nice belly from your bike what bike is it ? 

 also noticed to put down the gelcoat I get better results using this type of brush

Thats why I changed to  2 layers gelcoat I wanted first to put down a fine layer with these more stif brushes especially in the sharp corners of the split moulds .
I always did this with the unimould gelcoat so I can get the split corners airbubble free and afte rthat a second layer with a normal brush. 
But I now see my 3 moulds I made of high temp epoxy tooling with 1 layer having some minor air bubbles but no delaminating or my 4 moulds now with  2 layers no airbubbles but delaminating gelcoat so 1 layer it wil bee I think . 

will take some pics later 

I use angled fitchs from brewers paint shop stiffer so easier to use.put the tooling mold is in oven again  to do final post cure.the mold is a lot thinner in carbon it will be interesting how part will come out.will test Monday.


just had my el160 laminating resin down on the 1 layer geloat parts.
Only problem I noticed it that on sharp edges the EL160 desolves the gelcoat and you can see the part thru it.
Dont know how big a problim this wil be but had this with the unimould tooling resin also and didn't got any problems  so lets hope this wil work also .
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K.C.C - 12/27/2019 12:57:51 PM
Shaneer22 - 12/27/2019 12:42:21 PM
K.C.C - 12/27/2019 10:18:17 AM
Tooling seems to work fine ?
I'm making 4 little moulds today again with 1 layer gelcoat 
 pc nice belly from your bike what bike is it ? 

 also noticed to put down the gelcoat I get better results using this type of brush

Thats why I changed to  2 layers gelcoat I wanted first to put down a fine layer with these more stif brushes especially in the sharp corners of the split moulds .
I always did this with the unimould gelcoat so I can get the split corners airbubble free and afte rthat a second layer with a normal brush. 
But I now see my 3 moulds I made of high temp epoxy tooling with 1 layer having some minor air bubbles but no delaminating or my 4 moulds now with  2 layers no airbubbles but delaminating gelcoat so 1 layer it wil bee I think . 

will take some pics later 

I use angled fitchs from brewers paint shop stiffer so easier to use.put the tooling mold is in oven again  to do final post cure.the mold is a lot thinner in carbon it will be interesting how part will come out.will test Monday.


just had my el160 laminating resin down on the 1 layer geloat parts.
Only problem I noticed it that on sharp edges the EL160 desolves the gelcoat and you can see the part thru it.
Dont know how big a problim this wil be but had this with the unimould tooling resin also and didn't got any problems  so lets hope this wil work also .

Trial and error and testing just laid up this part going to leave it for a day at room temp then cure.useually I bake straight away.

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Shaneer22 - 12/27/2019 2:20:23 PM
K.C.C - 12/27/2019 12:57:51 PM
Shaneer22 - 12/27/2019 12:42:21 PM
K.C.C - 12/27/2019 10:18:17 AM
Tooling seems to work fine ?
I'm making 4 little moulds today again with 1 layer gelcoat 
 pc nice belly from your bike what bike is it ? 

 also noticed to put down the gelcoat I get better results using this type of brush

Thats why I changed to  2 layers gelcoat I wanted first to put down a fine layer with these more stif brushes especially in the sharp corners of the split moulds .
I always did this with the unimould gelcoat so I can get the split corners airbubble free and afte rthat a second layer with a normal brush. 
But I now see my 3 moulds I made of high temp epoxy tooling with 1 layer having some minor air bubbles but no delaminating or my 4 moulds now with  2 layers no airbubbles but delaminating gelcoat so 1 layer it wil bee I think . 

will take some pics later 

I use angled fitchs from brewers paint shop stiffer so easier to use.put the tooling mold is in oven again  to do final post cure.the mold is a lot thinner in carbon it will be interesting how part will come out.will test Monday.


just had my el160 laminating resin down on the 1 layer geloat parts.
Only problem I noticed it that on sharp edges the EL160 desolves the gelcoat and you can see the part thru it.
Dont know how big a problim this wil be but had this with the unimould tooling resin also and didn't got any problems  so lets hope this wil work also .

Trial and error and testing just laid up this part going to leave it for a day at room temp then cure.useually I bake straight away.


How did it go ? 
I made 6 little test moulds with 1 layer gelcoat and they came out perfect , post cured them and trimmed all good . 
Had 2 other small moulds with 2 layers waited only 1U30min between first and second layer the gelcoat at arround 20°C room temp and stil when trimming the edges off the moulds delamination . 
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