EL160 High Temp Epoxy Laminating Resin mould laminating


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Shaneer22 - 12/23/2019 10:18:39 PM
If using expreg you can't leave gel coat and key up then gel coat at later stage because when you post cure it will delaminate.also I myself have had your problems coming from unimold system to epoxy has its own problems.i would recommend warming the gel coat and applying thin coats or just the first gel coat.when laminating stipple and use consolidating roller.but it's a bit off trial and error.


What post cure cycles do you use ?

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K.C.C - 12/24/2019 7:53:17 AM
Shaneer22 , thnx for your reply !
I dont let the gelcoat key up completly  I can stil make  a dent in it before I put second  layer on it .
But I think its stil to far cured that way.
Like I  said  before what is the correct B stage ?
Video it seems pretty hard .
I got a temp controlled oven
Will post cure the parts  today and see what happens but wil need to start over I think .



You will find with epoxy gel coat the second gel coat should be applied a little earlier just try not to drag or disturb first coat.you will find if there is any voids air pockets when post curing gel coat will blister a real pain.

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Shaneer22 - 12/24/2019 10:13:27 AM
K.C.C - 12/24/2019 7:53:17 AM
Shaneer22 , thnx for your reply !
I dont let the gelcoat key up completly  I can stil make  a dent in it before I put second  layer on it .
But I think its stil to far cured that way.
Like I  said  before what is the correct B stage ?
Video it seems pretty hard .
I got a temp controlled oven
Will post cure the parts  today and see what happens but wil need to start over I think .



You will find with epoxy gel coat the second gel coat should be applied a little earlier just try not to drag or disturb first coat.you will find if there is any voids air pockets when post curing gel coat will blister a real pain.

Ok thnx so I need to put it much earlier than I did more like between 1.5U and 2U .
For not to disturb the first coat I heat the gelcoat before mixing this looks to help making it less thick 

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K.C.C - 12/24/2019 10:47:16 AM
Shaneer22 - 12/24/2019 10:13:27 AM
K.C.C - 12/24/2019 7:53:17 AM
Shaneer22 , thnx for your reply !
I dont let the gelcoat key up completly  I can stil make  a dent in it before I put second  layer on it .
But I think its stil to far cured that way.
Like I  said  before what is the correct B stage ?
Video it seems pretty hard .
I got a temp controlled oven
Will post cure the parts  today and see what happens but wil need to start over I think .



You will find with epoxy gel coat the second gel coat should be applied a little earlier just try not to drag or disturb first coat.you will find if there is any voids air pockets when post curing gel coat will blister a real pain.

Ok thnx so I need to put it much earlier than I did more like between 1.5U and 2U .
For not to disturb the first coat I heat the gelcoat before mixing this looks to help making it less thick 

Gel coat is very thixotrothic.i use standard post cure starts at 50 and ramps up over 13 hours to 120 then holds for and hour.but before you post cure leave at room temperature for a couple of days the high temp resin takes while to cure.

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Post cured the part got no delamination few little air bubbles in the gelcoat only the mold got deofrmed at the splits .

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Think my temps are the problem .
I got it up to 50° hold it 1H  ramp 1° a minute to  70° hold 1H ramp 1° to 90° hold 1H ramp to 110° hold 1 h Ramp 1° to 110° hold 1H ramp 1° to 125° hold 3H

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Did you post cure with split Mold bolted together if not that could be a cause.also you Mold lay might not be orientated right if your Mold was thick that probably wouldn't be a problem.iam testing ex preg tooling system I'll let you no the out and I have some old small vylnester Mold which iam post curing to see what results come from that and any issues.
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Shaneer22 - 12/25/2019 4:28:24 PM
Did you post cure with split Mold bolted together if not that could be a cause.also you Mold lay might not be orientated right if your Mold was thick that probably wouldn't be a problem.iam testing ex preg tooling system I'll let you no the out and I have some old small vylnester Mold which iam post curing to see what results come from that and any issues.


The mold was bolted together.
I tried a difirent methode with this mold ,what might be the problem .
I  had the 2 layers of  gelcoat than cuppling layer gelcoat , a layer of arround  4 mm  el160 moulding paste followed with 1 layer woven glass 280G twill and a layer 400Gram twill weave with the el160 laminting resin .
I had a unimould  split mould in the oven for curing and this didn't move a bit looks great to hold the temp of 125°



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K.C.C - 12/25/2019 10:08:00 PM
Shaneer22 - 12/25/2019 4:28:24 PM
Did you post cure with split Mold bolted together if not that could be a cause.also you Mold lay might not be orientated right if your Mold was thick that probably wouldn't be a problem.iam testing ex preg tooling system I'll let you no the out and I have some old small vylnester Mold which iam post curing to see what results come from that and any issues.


The mold was bolted together.
I tried a difirent methode with this mold ,what might be the problem .
I  had the 2 layers of  gelcoat than cuppling layer gelcoat , a layer of arround  4 mm  el160 moulding paste followed with 1 layer woven glass 280G twill and a layer 400Gram twill weave with the el160 laminting resin .
I had a unimould  split mould in the oven for curing and this didn't move a bit looks great to hold the temp of 125°



May be worth testing some ex preg on unimold.ive got tooling ex preg in oven I debaulked every ply so I will no in 30 hours what results are.

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Started with some smaler moulds again today .
ad some small high temp epoxy moulds made before and they had no problem and I remember I only used 1 layer gelcoat 
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