PU240 Medium Density Polyurethane (or similiar) as a core for a prepreg construction?


PU240 Medium Density Polyurethane (or similiar) as a core for a prepreg construction?
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Hello!

I am making a rather complex model where making a mould is extremely difficult, and not necessary because it is a one time only. 
There fore, I wonder if it is possible to make the the core out of some kind of polyurethane, and proceed to wrap it in pre-preg and then cure it as usual? Does anyone have any experience on this topic? 
Would the polyurethane handle the heat?
Would it bend or deform under vacuum? (The construction is about 40mm wide at thinnest and about 600mm long)

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Polyurethanes will inhibit the cure of epoxies at high temperatures unfortunately. 
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Hanaldo - 3/12/2018 10:52:04 PM
Polyurethanes will inhibit the cure of epoxies at high temperatures unfortunately. 

Thank you for your answer - but the heat in this case would not be higher than 90-100 degrees celsius. Is this still too high?
If it is, do you have any suggestions or recommendations on what I should use instead?
Maybe the EB700 High Temperature Epoxy Tooling Board would work for example?
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PU will inhibit the cure even at relatively low temperatures.  By far the better choice would be an Epoxy Tooling block such as our EB700


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Warren (Staff) - 3/13/2018 2:42:31 PM
PU will inhibit the cure even at relatively low temperatures.  By far the better choice would be an Epoxy Tooling block such as our EP700
Thank you!

Is there any cheaper options on the market?

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it would help if you can explain a bit more about what you are trying to achieve? Does it need to be prepreg that you are using? Could you make the core from a cheaper foam material and then skin it using dry fibre and the XCR resin system?

Im doing some work on using 3d printed parts as the sacrificial core but the PLA material isnt able to cope with even a 65degree cure. I would have a look into other materials as the guys above say the PU block will inhibit the cure


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Tooling board would work, but it wouldn't be lightweight at all, especially the EB700 tooling board as it is a 700kg/M3 density - extremely heavy for use in a final component. You ideally want something no heavier than a 90-100kg/M3 density, but can also take high temperatures without inhibition... There aren't many options that spring to mind for me, but I would suggest it will be an aerospace product. 

As Scott suggested, pre-preg may not be the most suitable choice for this one?
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Tony2125 - 4/1/2018 8:31:40 PM

Interesting site, bookmarked :-)

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Yes
I ve looking for foam core solution for a project.
I know some guys use EPS polystyrene, but I don’t know if this require a preparation for using it with preg
What I found was
Rohacell
Soluble foam core from http://www.acmtucson.com/
sold by aeroconsultant.ch
Expandable foam core from https://www.tencatecomposites.com/products/adhesives-and-core
Epoxy foam for Sicomin http://www.sicomin.com/datasheets/product-pdf_fr19.pdf
I will give a try with the last one available in small qty and relatively cheep

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