is easycomp pre-preg good for structural use ?


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Sorry, 
You have post cured a part with a unimold mandrel
Or you have used the unimold at curing scedule up to 
120 Celsius with out deformation? 
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You can,but very slowly increase tempreture so parts does not deform.i have post cured unimold upto 120.
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one more question ...
if i want to cure @130c , the mold materials can hold up to 80c only , can i continue curing the part after de-molding ?
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thank for replying . 
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These are the figures for a Cure at 130 °C for 60 minutes on the press with 3 b ar pressure


Properties                Test method    Measure unit    Typical values
Flexural strength      EN2562              Mpa                         850
Flexural modulus      EN2562              Gpa                           59
Tensile strength       ISO 527              Mpa                         650
Tensile modulus       ISO 527              Gpa                           59
Short Beam Shear    EN2563               Mpa                          65
TG (DSC) 20°C/min                             °C                         140

That is from the manufacturers data.

However the data is only useful and valid if you use the same conditions and cure cycle -  and there in is the problem with technical data for pre-pregs and to a lesser extent composites in general.  This is why often manufacturers of the resins and fabrics only have available fibre specification and data for the resin. The professional designers will usually be doing the complex maths and CAD necessary to get the necessary figures for thier applications.

To answer the original question, can it be used for structural purposes - in many cases yes. Depends what you are making.  When you compare it to the top level pre-pregs used in say Formula 1, parts made will be thicker and heavier with the varipreg.  Obviously certain applications will need the extreme properties only the best pre-pregs can provide.

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It depends on what structural part you are making. Autoclave parts allow repeatability and reliability in the cure cycle, less voids etc... so a slightly lower safety factor can be used as you can be more confident of the finished material.

Getting the properties off a datasheet is never the best way if you want dependable results. You need to make some test samples and repeat the tests yourself in your cure environment.

Everything you need is on the EC spec you posted up, just go onto the grafil website for the fibre spec...

So you don't have to search... here's the link (34-700 looks like the closest BTW)... http://mrcfac.com/home-cfd/products-cfd/grafil-fiber/

Then using first principles laminate theory you can calculate the laminate properties, or feed the info into an FEA program if you are confident you know how to use it properly.
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then where can i find any data regarding easycomp pre-preg ? 
how strog this out of autoclave carbon fiber ,compared to professional parts made with autoclave ? 
any datasheets ? 
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sss (26/12/2014)
hello guys 
new member here Smile
i want to make some structural assemblies from pre-preg cf and i wonder if easycomposites cf is strong enough , or is it just for show purpose / body panels use only ?


Structural parts for aircraft and gliders are often made from glass fibers, so yes, even mechanical "inferior" grades of carbon can be used to make structural parts. You just need to know what material you are using and design accordingly.

for example , when i compare resin properties to cycom 2020 which is used in formula 1 etc i see big difference , but the measurements were made on different systems (iso and astm)

i added the mechanical properties , so how those two can be compared ?


You can't compare them, because the data you posted for the EC material is for the RESIN only , while the cycom stuff is for a specific laminate including fibers.
The mechanical properties are largely determined by the fiber used, and there are many different types of carbon fibers with wildly differing mechanical properties. In the end you need to find out what kind of fiber is optimally suited for your purpose, or alternatively use enough material so that your part can take the expected loads.
(Besides, twill might not be the best choice anyway).



easycomposites :

http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/bd3c2d6c-9f26-4d64-9d58-8268.jpg

cytec cycom 2020 :
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/19d7cddf-2255-4030-8b99-43ba.jpg



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interesting question!

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Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports
website:
www.mat2composites.com




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Iam also interested in a reply.
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