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I have tried again removing the spiral line and only putting two thin strips of mesh. I've also closed the vacuum pump line and let the resin flow for a while. It took almost an hour to fill the entire panel. Maybe it wasn't quick enough this time. It still didn't work, I must be doing something wrong but don't know what anymore.
I've start with vacuum bagging tomorrow  as it should give the same properties more or less. Hopefully, that will work.
Thank you all for your answers!

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Philippine - 2/18/2019 2:18:36 PM
Hi,

I am currently making carbon fibre samples of different layers and using different methods.
I have managed to get a really good surface finish with hand lay-up but not with infusion (photo attached).
I saw someone post a similar question on the forum but he was using unidirectional so our problem might be different.



Following the videos you've made for infusion, the surface finish of all may samples are almost entirely dry as if there wasn't enough resin.
You've suggested to reduced the flow speed to allow the resin to get everywhere which I will try very soon.
However, my samples are pretty small (210x160mm) and I'm worried that it won't be enough.
Could the infusion spiral  be completely removed to allow a slower flow process ?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks,
Philippine

Hello.maybe you have seen my post.i had dry spots and this caused by the unidirectional fibre.now i infuse a bigger part and i use the same amount of resin i used in the smaller and i have again some dry spots.i think it is poor of resin.i will add 30 grams . I think you have the same occasion. I suggest you close the vacuum line and let 1 minute or less the feed line to make it rich.

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When the resin has reached the exit port and everything appears to have wet through, close the exit but leave the inlet side open for a couple of minutes. This should allow enough time for the resin to completely fill the part

On such a small sample, you can likely get away with using no spiral and a narrow strip of flow mesh at the inlet side should be enough. On larger pieces, it's common to cut any flow mesh just before the exit line (about an inch or so) and this helps to slow things down and allow time for the resin to flow to all areas before starting to flow up the exit line. Another narrow strip under your exit port will help to evacuate any air in the resin as it reaches the end of the part. So, a narrow strip at the resin feed side, with another strip at the exit should leave enough of a space inbetween to allow for a slow and thorough wetting-out of your part and, hopefully, no dry spots when cured


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Hanaldo - 2/18/2019 3:29:04 PM
Yeh, it's just not enough resin. And given the size of your samples, that's not surprising - infusing small pieces with proper infusion resin can be tricky, as the resin often just flows super quick over the back and doesnt have time to wet out the surface properly. With bigger infusions this solves itself as the resin doesnt flow as quickly, but with smaller infusions it can be helpful to use a higher viscosity resin (max 550cps), or just use a hose clamp to throttle the flow to about an inch per minute.


Thank you very much for your answer.
I tried it yesterday and demoulded it this morning and the resin still hasn't filled all the cloth.
Should I keep the pump running when the resin is flowing on the panel or should I stop it ?
I might try hand lay-up followed by vacuum bagging tomorrow. Hopefully that should work.



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Yeh, it's just not enough resin. And given the size of your samples, that's not surprising - infusing small pieces with proper infusion resin can be tricky, as the resin often just flows super quick over the back and doesnt have time to wet out the surface properly. With bigger infusions this solves itself as the resin doesnt flow as quickly, but with smaller infusions it can be helpful to use a higher viscosity resin (max 550cps), or just use a hose clamp to throttle the flow to about an inch per minute.
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Hi,

I am currently making carbon fibre samples of different layers and using different methods.
I have managed to get a really good surface finish with hand lay-up but not with infusion (photo attached).
I saw someone post a similar question on the forum but he was using unidirectional so our problem might be different.



Following the videos you've made for infusion, the surface finish of all may samples are almost entirely dry as if there wasn't enough resin.
You've suggested to reduced the flow speed to allow the resin to get everywhere which I will try very soon.
However, my samples are pretty small (210x160mm) and I'm worried that it won't be enough.
Could the infusion spiral  be completely removed to allow a slower flow process ?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks,
Philippine

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