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Junior
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I want to make a 2-part mould roughly covering 3.5sqmtrs but the overall cost is quite large.
Would it be possible to use a cheaper alternative to the Uni-mould Tooling resin (which appears to be the most expensive part) such as a cheap Polyester resin to bond all the layers of chopped strand mat? Or is there another cheaper alternative to the uni-mould system that would give adequate results?
I don't intend on pulling hundreds of releases, at most I would say 5 in total?
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A rapid tooling system like Unimould will produce a much better mould than regular GP laminating resins. The main advantage is time, it is very quick and easy to produce a tool because you can layup the bulk reinforcement in one go. You can do a complete mould lamination in a few hours and have a ready-to-use mould 24 hours later. This is more important for professionals than hobbiests, but still a great advantage to have.
Tooling resins are also filled, which not only vastly reduces shrinkage but also increases the build. So a mould made with tooling resin and 5 layers of 450g CSM will be thicker and stronger than a mould made with GP resin and 5 layers of 450.
The Unimould system will also produce a more temperature stable mould, capable of handling up to 90-100 degrees C, which makes it possible to use for OOA pre-pregs. GP resin can typically only handle 60 degrees, and so isnt very suitable for higher temperature cures.
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Cheaper Mould alternatives?
Junior
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8 Years Ago
I use regular polyester almost all the time. You just need to watch it for shrinkage. Build it up a...
FLD
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8 Years Ago
Thanks for the reply, would you still require the barrier layer (coupling coat?) between the gelcoat...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
No need for a specific coupling coat either; but it's good practice to do the same light-weight...
Hanaldo
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8 Years Ago
Excellent stuff, that has reduced the overall cost massively! I think I would prefer to use a proper...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
A rapid tooling system like Unimould will produce a much better mould than regular GP laminating...
Hanaldo
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8 Years Ago
Are you going to use the mold to produce carbon parts? The i would highly recommend to make a test...
oekmont
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8 Years Ago
[quote]Are you going to use the mold to produce carbon parts? [/quote] Unsure, may do a fibreglass...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
[quote][b]oekmont (21/04/2017)[/b][hr]Are you going to use the mold to produce carbon parts? The i...
Hanaldo
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8 Years Ago
If the description is true (I guess it is): A: the unimold tooling resin is vinylester based, wich...
oekmont
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8 Years Ago
[quote] B: the coupling coat seems to be a chemical bond between the surface vinylester resin and...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo, yes this will just be a hobby project so time is not critical and I will not need...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
Yes, i think you will need the coupling coat if you use the unimould gelcoat.. Unimould and Epoxy...
Dravis
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8 Years Ago
So what would you guys recommendas a cheaper 'hobby' alternative?
Junior
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8 Years Ago
GP resin is fine mate, it is the cheaper alternative. Hell, even some big companies still build...
Hanaldo
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8 Years Ago
[quote]GP resin is fine mate, it is the cheaper alternative[/quote] What about the gelcoat/coupling...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
[quote][b]Junior (21/04/2017)[/b][hr][quote]GP resin is fine mate, it is the cheaper...
Hanaldo
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8 Years Ago
I would say it depends: If you are making a large part (the absolute shrinks depends on the mold...
oekmont
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8 Years Ago
The moulds will be used to make two halves of a kayak that will be joined together with composite...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
As you can correct the inaccuracies during the final bonding process this might work well with...
oekmont
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8 Years Ago
Would the following be suitable/compatible? I'm struggling to find anything cheaper.. Tooling...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
I buy stuff there but I wouldn't use the reblend resin. It is just the dregs stirred together....
FLD
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8 Years Ago
So would the top two work together or is there a better alternative? Did someone say you can use a...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
The top two work great, I use them myself. The general gelcoat you've just added works fine too (I...
FLD
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8 Years Ago
[quote][b]FLD (21/04/2017)[/b][hr] Regarding the whole warping issue, I've used the materials you...
Hanaldo
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8 Years Ago
That's good to know it has worked for you, to be honest I'd only be looking to make 2-3 pulls, 5 at...
Junior
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8 Years Ago
I totally agree that thermal shrinkage could cause even more problems than chemical shrinkage. But...
oekmont
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8 Years Ago
[quote][b]oekmont (22/04/2017)[/b][hr]I totally agree that thermal shrinkage could cause even more...
Hanaldo
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8 Years Ago
I thought the chemistry was more complex than that? The chain propagation is also radical based as...
FLD
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8 Years Ago
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