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Where can O find the spray that stick the fabric to the mould ?
Where can O find the spray that stick the fabric to the mould ?
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Jess8bit
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In video tutorial
How to Make a Carbon Fibre Car Bonnet/Hood - Part 2/3
at about 03'22' you are using a spray that helps you to maintain the fabric.
What is it and where can I find it in the webstore ?
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Jess8bit
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fgayford (18/11/2012)
Some people use 3M spray. I talked to a large manufacturer at at a trade show. I asked what they used as a tackifier and to my shock he said they used the cheapest none perfumed hair spray. He bought it by the case.
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I would be afraid it reacts with the gel coat or the infused resin in an unexpected way, wouldn't you ?
It is why I'd like yo be sure to find a specific product, a neutral product
thanks for the input
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Matthieu Libeert
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Nice to hear of that theory of hairspray.
In addition on that I can say; not to use "normal hobby sprayglue".
Ive tested it and found out it forms a barrier through wich the resin can not pass, leaving dry cloth under it.
Matthieu Libeert
Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports
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The one thing I have learned in composites is this. Listen and if it makes sense test it yourself. The smoke and mirrors soon disappear. Its a proof is in the pudding sort of thing. I now test everything before I commit to a project.
Thanks to Matt and the guys I have proven to my self the following.
1. A perfectly sealed bag is possible. (I have had 14 in a row)
2. Clamping off the bag produces pin hole free surfaces. (who would ever have thought of turning off the pump?)
3. Those clamp off devices are the greatest thing since toast. I used to use vice grips and all other type of devices. The thing I like the best about them is the light weight. If you use vicegrip plyers or such, they are so heavy and add so much torgue and twist that they can easily cause a leak.
I infuse and then clamp off the two lines within an inch of the entry point of the bag. I then cut the tubes off an inch above them and then put a bit of resin in each tube. In this way I can see if the clamps are really clamping off the lines. If the resin level drops I know it needs a bit more clamping pressure. The whole mold is now easy to move without restrictions so I can put it in my hot box oven and infuse the next mold and so on.
4. I ordered some soric from them and it arrived here in Canada as promised in about a week. I tested it as a flow media. One 6k carbon in the mold then a layer of soric and then another layer of 6k carbon. Then the vacuum bag. (not stretchelon. but regular bagging so it doesn't stick) It infused perfectly and produced a pin hole free part.
Right now I am testing the carbon skinning method....
Fred
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Where can O find the spray that stick the fabric to the mould ?
Jess8bit
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13 Years Ago
Apparently there is a problem with the manufacturer, it has been showing "out of stock" on the EC...
wozza
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13 Years Ago
[quote][b]wozza (17/11/2012)[/b][hr]Apparently there is a problem with the manufacturer, it has been...
Jess8bit
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13 Years Ago
I bought a product called elmers repositionable spray, it's clear pva light adhesive. If you lightly...
mikew
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13 Years Ago
[quote][b]mikew (18/11/2012)[/b][hr]I bought a product called elmers repositionable spray, it's...
Jess8bit
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13 Years Ago
Some people use 3M spray. I talked to a large manufacturer at at a trade show. I asked what they...
fgayford
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13 Years Ago
[quote][b]fgayford (18/11/2012)[/b][hr]Some people use 3M spray. I talked to a large manufacturer at...
Jess8bit
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13 Years Ago
Nice to hear of that theory of hairspray. In addition on that I can say; not to use "normal hobby...
matthieutje65
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13 Years Ago
The one thing I have learned in composites is this. Listen and if it makes sense test it yourself....
fgayford
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13 Years Ago
All my entire project I used scotch spray mount and there is no problem in CF part quality...
Leon
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13 Years Ago
thank guys, seems like 3M spray is a good candidate.
Jess8bit
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13 Years Ago
I have used 3M 77 (which is the industrial strength stuff) I think it is too much. It sticks very...
baja_patient
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13 Years Ago
[quote][b]baja_patient (19/11/2012)[/b][hr]I have used 3M 77 (which is the industrial strength...
star.ace
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12 Years Ago
Yeah star.ace, it seems Zyvax have serious production issue, from what I've heard recently.
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Thanks a lot for your feedback ! :)
Jess8bit
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13 Years Ago
I've heard the hairspray idea before, never tried it myself but tempted to soon
ajb100
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[quote][b]ajb100 (19/11/2012)[/b][hr]I've heard the hairspray idea before, never tried it myself but...
Jess8bit
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13 Years Ago
I use Stayz from Zyvax as it is epoxy compatiable. Should be available from Composites One and...
w10n320wt
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[quote][b]w10n320wt (04/04/2013)[/b][hr]I use Stayz from Zyvax as it is epoxy compatiable. Should be...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (04/04/2013)[/b][hr][quote][b]w10n320wt (04/04/2013)[/b][hr]I use Stayz from...
GROPIUS
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12 Years Ago
thank you Gropius :w00t:
Jess8bit
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What a reseller in Italy told me is that stayz was going to cure in the cans in two weeks time. So...
alebassa
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[quote][b]alebassa (04/04/2013)[/b][hr]What a reseller in Italy told me is that stayz was going to...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
This is the stuff I've been using...
ajb100
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[quote][b]ajb100 (05/04/2013)[/b][hr]This is the stuff I've been using...
Jess8bit
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Could we get some info from EasyComposites to regarding the in-can shelf life of StayZ? I have used...
baja_patient
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12 Years Ago
Why the hell did I miss that 3M product !? :blush: Sounds perfect ! Where can we find it in...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Hi I have a good story about the spray adhesive, seeking Stayz discovered that the distributor for...
Manu
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12 Years Ago
OK. :) By the way, I live in Europe (near Paris) and this week I've tried to be delivered a box...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
I have tried "Infutac" from french Diatex, holds thing in place nicely but leaves fiber trace on the...
prsw
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12 Years Ago
Guys, I'm still using this Elmers stuff, made many parts with it including very tricky shapes with...
mikew
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12 Years Ago
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