Looking for an advice... making mounting points for saddle cover


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alebassa
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Hi!

I'm preparing a saddle cover for my bike, made in CF with epoxy (by infusion). This one:

http://www.af1racing.com/store/ProdImages/st3/85883700XN6.jpg

I already made the mould from the original in ABS, but now I'm looking for a solution for the underside, where I've to make the mounting points:

http:///www.biosairam.it/foto/monoposto.jpg


There are three mounting points and I'm wandering about how to do them.

I've got some silicone rubber that I can use to make three little moulds.. but then what can I do?
Pour some resin in the silicone mould, then glue the monting points on the main piece?
Do I need casting resin or I can use just standard? Maybe infusion resin which is more easy to get in the little contours?
But will the mounting point made only of resin be strong enough?
Can I glue it just with some more resin?

Any help will be welcome!!!


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Nobody has any idea???


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This is quite a common problem I see on any forum...
I havent realy read some solid solutions for this problem as well Smile
The idea about casting them into a silicone mould looks like the most plausible idea.

How I would do:
1. cast the parts (you'll need special resins, not just laminating resins)
2. add some metal flat circle, square on the bottom, casted toghether with the resin
3. when you lay everything, you make a little hole in the fiber and get the mounting thing through the hole
    and the square/circle metal plate inbetween the layers of cloth

Not sure if I'm totaly clear, or this is the best way, but this is how I would do it...

Matthieu Libeert
Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports
website:
www.mat2composites.com




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Thank you Matthieu,

 
Your idea is very good, and I think it would be very strong done like that...

To say the through I think it would not be so easy to layup the alraeady casted mounting points in the main piece, and almost impossible if you do it with infusion.

I think I will try to glue it somehow on the main piece

You say you need casting resin... do you think laminating resin or infusion resion would not be good just for litte parts like these?
What is the differebce from casting resin to the pther kind?

I don't have casting resin and I'd need to buy it just for this... so if i can do without...


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Hello Alessandro

In your case I would say you need to give us more pictures and information.

I would think that for the under side that is not seen the mounting points can be made in seperate molds. There is no real strength in casting plastic. You should make them out of carbon fiber. Once done you scuff the mounting surfaces and bond the parts on as sub units. There are adhesives that will rip the panels apart before the glue fails. View the instructional video of Matt making a car hood and consider the under side of the hood as the mounting points you are going to apply as sub sections.

Hope this helps.

Fred 
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Just bond some big head composites fasteners underneath, if they need to be raised then you could easily make a small tower from a range of materials, but you'd probably be best with longer bolts and a spacer made to length
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That's a good idea.. I just need to find some big head fastner... I already looked for it in some italian e-shop but still didn't find..
Thank you!


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If you're in the uk, this is where i get mine from

http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/c-924-big-head-bonding-fasteners.aspx

Still trying to find them somewhere cheaper but unless you're buying in bulk no one is interested
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I just found this: bigHead fasteners

They are UK producers and there's a list of distributors for the different countries if somebody is interested...

I think the best would be to make them by yourself... just as you need them


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this seems very easy try to advise me how to do console mountings with angle to attach to console. i can upload photo if that help?
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