After 3 fails its time to ask where i go wrong..


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As mentioned..   3x not a charm here.

I have this isseu every time.
Clearcoating without gelcoat would be an option. But allso that isnt easy with small holes like this.

Now i used gelcoat. Hoping it would help.

Gel had cured at 25 degrees for 5 hours was dry to touch.

I used 3m high tack clear spray adheasive to hold the fibers in place. (AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE)


on the vacuum catch pot the dail says my vacuum is 100%
I leace the pump running over night.  In the morning when the resin is hardned the vacuum line form the ez composite starter kit to the pot is flat from the vac. 

(I dont have an official cacuum pump.  I use a 35l/m fridge pump. Whitch seems to work fine.   I can add an extra pump if i need more cfm...)
If my vac is to strong.. i can make a bleedvalve to reduce vacuum.   

But idialy i would love to have a perfect finish.

I use easy lease release agent..  denoulding is a breeze..




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Warren (Staff) - 4/16/2021 3:42:19 PM
Indeed for a semi-structural part you would unlikely want a mix of the two materials for the reasons Hanaldo stated above. 

We have plenty of customers using DIY ovens and as long as you take electrical and thermal safety seriously, you should be able to make something that works and is not a fire hazard!

Out of autoclave pre-pregs have made the pre-preg process a lot more accessible in recent years and removed a fair bit of the mystery surrounding the process.   You can find our range of pre-preg videos covering various methods and our XPREG pre-preg system here: Composites Learning Area

Well.   I am racing rc boats over 25 years. Of witch 20 years with carbon  glass and carbon cevlar etc. The best mix i know is glass with carbon in this sport.

The glass its elongation is what we need.  The carbon is only used to make it more stiff.   Full carbon is hard like a rock 100% but when we get hit by another boat. Full carbon will break allso with a good flip(they can fly off)  
It are serious machines! We hit speeds of over 80mph.

Im not saying we have the full benefit of all. But we take the strength from glass. And stiffnes of the carbon.

Anyhow.   If you know a better layup Im happy to try and test it!    For this boat it needs to be light allso.   I use 210 carbon 200 glass 290 glass and some coremat on the deck together with some  carbon roving

For the boat im trying to infuse.   It went horrible again.

I did a 2.5h test on the vacuum.
Made a hudge batch of resin.(el2 this time.. becouse i ran out of in2.) 
I made a carbon plate of 4mm on a glass plate with peel on both sides...   perfect bubble free. And 100% rock solid.(took me 45min to infuse with 6mm lead)

The boat hull.   No go.
It was all white and hazy in the bag.
I was even able to delaminate all layers of fabric without tearing them.   I dont know what is wrong. But i didnt loose pressure in 2.5H.    and did 100% the same as the carbon plate

On foto it doesnt look that bad maybe. But there where 3 layers of glass inside.  And now its only carbon.

Gets me thinking.  What if i put those parts back and vacume infuse again over them with new glass inside. Lol
Will it or will it not work.

now i have a nice carbon plate and 2 carbon shells..


Im getting a little nervous, lol.  Why are my vac and feed lines good. Bubble free. No leaks in 2.5 houre. Needle didnt move at all... open up the vac line and no single movement.

Bag was super tight.   And after infusing i have a full out problem

The only thing i can think of now. Is i made these 2 boat halfs with wax over easylease. And the carbon i didnt use wax.       Although. This dek i allso made with easy lease and wax. (No grlcoat)  and clearcoated it. that came out like a dream.  Allso el2 resin. Vacuum allso same rolls of carbon and glass used. Same mixing cups and stirring sticks and all.


Could it be my bag has some weak spots. And will start leaking on them over night?
Or what am i doing so wrong?  I made 2 good ones(well. Decent ones.. useble.. and now all ..... ones..

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