Silicone bags, infuse or VPI & general discussion


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Jones
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Im looking into using silicone bags instead of the disposable nylon bags. mainly in order to deal with problems such as leaking bags, bridging, reducing consumables, as well as reducing the time it takes. Right now im still in school so doesn't have too much cash to throw around, I have therefore opted to go for brush on silicone bags. I have looked into using either Alan harpers starter kit or the ez brush silicone from smooth-on.

Mainly im looking inte you guys opinions regarding the subject as there is not alot of information out there apport from a few videos and articles but if feels like no-one is talking about it on forums and such.

what are you guys thoughts regarding:
brush vs sprayed silicone and brands.
distributing epoxy/resin. (all in one shot Alan Harper style, gravity fed/resin infusion or injecting with machine etc)
sealing profiles. (on flange, routed grove, wax strips etc)
flow distribution (morph runners, resin runners, Alan harpers REFLOW Flow Promoter, regular flowmesh, core or reinforcement with flow properties etc)
just wanted to mainly get the discussion started and your experiences and opinions regarding it all.



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If you want to so it, do it. This hobby is about try and failure. And success from time to time, of course.
I always use the fastest possible hardener. Usually 35min.
You might consider a closed mould. Theoretically the same elements as the silicone bag, but you can even get rid of the flow media and peelply, by reducing the fibre content willingly. If you are using glass backing layers, a little less fibre content will be ok anyways. If you want to go to the max, you could make a flash mould to make preform layups while the part in the real mould is curing, and then transfer them to mould for the next cycle.

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I thought you needed to inject the resins if you went for a closed top mold, and thereby needed expensive equipment.
I’m fine with lowering the fiber to epoxy ratio in order to skip the need of consumeables. Right now I’m using 650g carbon twill and a 440g bi-ax glass both at 45/45 to help with drape ability. And to help with keeping the part flexible lengthwise. So I’m not sure if I could modify the layup much more in order to keep the fiber content lower.
But I guess if I could make a closed mold with and integrated flow media like structure that would be even better, but more complicated to pull off I guess?
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