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Hi All,
I've been infusing for a few years now and recently I've purchased a Greisinger GDH absolute gauge. My question is, when everyone says they get a perfect leak proof bag - is it really? Is there an acceptable tolerance for a leak to still be considered perfect?
Obviously the volume/size of the part being infused is relevant so after multiple tests envelope bagging a 1m2 glass mould with about 1mm thick laminate + flow media. I've had leaks ranging from 1mbar/hour to 10mbar/hour.
I've been under the impression that a perfect seal means it should keep the same vacuum for days on end. Is this asking too much?
The parts I'm infusing are cosmetic carbon so avoiding any pin holes or bubbles is the goal.
Thank you.
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Yeh I'll admit it is harder with the DVP pumps, i tend to use my DVP for pre-preg and my older pumps for infusion, just for this reason.
I should get a Greisinger, I do only hear great things about them.
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Zero Leak Vacuum Infusion
leeks
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6 Years Ago
Welcome to the digital gauge club. For me, one of the best tools you can get for vacuum infusion. No, it's impossible to get a 100% perfect seal. Especially not with typical resin infusion equipment...
oekmont
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6 Years Ago
I've got a digital gauge, but haven't used it in years. I still find the quickest and most reliable leak indicator is the tone of the pump - I know if my bag is sealed well before my gauge ever...
Hanaldo
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6 Years Ago
Since I got the Dvp pumps, the sound of the pump isn't as useful as before anymore. This works only with oil bath pumps. But the far superior performance and the abstinence of this slight oil mist...
oekmont
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6 Years Ago
Yeh I'll admit it is harder with the DVP pumps, i tend to use my DVP for pre-preg and my older pumps for infusion, just for this reason. I should get a Greisinger, I do only hear great things about...
Hanaldo
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6 Years Ago
I've got a "vac checker" made by dd compound. I can't complain about this one. It shows the boiling point of water at the current pressure, wich is usefull when working with aramid.
oekmont
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6 Years Ago
Thank you, Oekmont and Hanaldo. I can highly recommend the Greisinger, one of the most useful tools I've ever purchased. I did not realise just how hard it was to get a bag to "perfect seal" unti...
leeks
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6 Years Ago
Hi guys, ive struggled alot when it comes to making a perfectly sealed bag. ive been recommened to use a digital gauge, but i havent understood why/how a digital gauge would help getting a sealed bag...
8900120dd
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6 Years Ago
I have described the procedure in my first post of this thread. An analogue gauge is simply not nearly accurate enough for this method. Analogue gauges can help you determine if your bag is tight...
oekmont
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6 Years Ago
hi guys, ive purchased a digital gauge (gersinger GDH 200) its very useful for finding leaks by watching the gauge while the pump is running. however as soon as i switch the pump off, the vacuum drop...
8900120dd
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6 Years Ago
I had the same issue with mine when I first purchased a GDH. You will find the issue being you require more volume for the gauge to read accurately without the 'creep'. If you do not have a catch...
leeks
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6 Years Ago
I have been working with the GDH 200 and the Vac Checker for a few years now and would never ever do an infusion job without a digital pressure gauge. I always connect the gauge to the resin inlet...
Designbikes
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6 Years Ago
I totally agree that digital gauges are a huge help with infusion but an important thing to consider when pulling really high vacuum levels is that you get into the problem of volatile materials -...
explorecomposites
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6 Years Ago
Absolutely correct and the Vac Checker indicates when the moisture in the bagged system starts boiling and the volume to be evacuated is increased by the generated vapour. You come to a halt with the...
Designbikes
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6 Years Ago
Some great information on those links. Should be of good use to anyone struggling with infusion.
Warren (Staff)
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6 Years Ago
Good post Chris, lots of good info. All though for the record, I do this for a living and I ALWAYS clamp the vac pump and shut it off after the infusion has completed 🤠
Hanaldo
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6 Years Ago
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