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infusing thin sheet foam sandwich ?
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Hanaldo
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I just punch holes with a small flat head screw driver, so probably 2mm dia.
Print through is a problem though, I do get print from the holes. It's just the shrinkage of the excess resin, so anywhere you have a build up of resin compared to its surroundings you will see it, doesn't matter how big it is.
Post-curing is the best solution.
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Just to revive this thread a little, I recently made a couple of 0.5m square foam sandwich panels, using EC's 3mm material.
I usually do these in two steps - infusing two plys of carbon/e-glass then, when cured, the foam is bonded to the reverse with and an additional two layers wet-laid on top. The stack is then vac-bagged to draw off some of the excess resin. Results are usually great
However, I wanted to try and speed up production, so I first tried scoring and drilling the foam, then just driling it at approx. 50mm centres to see if it would work okay as a one-shot infusion. I figured that the additional time spent prepping the foam would, potentially, save a fair bit of additional time
Surface finish and bond was great on both, however, the grooves in the foam on the first panel and the holes drilled on the second were evident on the surface in a kind of hologram effect. It looks like the fabric had been ever so slightly pulled up into these recesses under vacuum and the minor uneveness was evident when reacting with the light
The grooved panel had a kind of tartan visual effect to it which, although not altogether unnatractive, was not the desired outcome!
The drilled-only panel showed dark spots where the holes in the foam were
Clearly just drilling was good enough to infuse, but would I need to add surface layers to avoid the holes being visible or can I get away with even smaller holes? The ones drilled were approx 3mm diameter, so I wonder if reducing the size might help avoid the visual print through?
How big are your holes?? :-)
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Finally did some more infused samples the other day and these worked out great.
Gel coat
2 x 180g glass cloth
6mm 100kg PVC foam with 2mm holes on 20mm centres
2 x 180 glass cloth
polyester infusion resin.
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Will work fine mate. You don't even need to score it deeply, just light scoring works fine and saves on resin/weight.
I've infused 5 and 10mm thick Divinycell in this manner, holes drilled at 2" intervals and connected on one side by grooves made with a metal ruler. Infuses like normal if you've got flow media across the entire laminate. Largest I have done is 2.5sqm, but it doesn't infuse slower than a regular laminate so I don't think you will have too much issue if you've got the pot life.
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Don't know, the largest I've infused is 1500x500
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ChrisR (21/05/2015)
The foam I use is just drilled at about 50mm c/c each way (6mm core), I only have a couple of layers each side and not had an issue
I could test this out.
I am still concerned about the overall speed. Is it fast enough to get an area done. I am doing 3.2m2
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The foam I use is just drilled at about 50mm c/c each way (6mm core), I only have a couple of layers each side and not had an issue
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I am wanting to infuse a 5mm thick PVC foam sandwich and I am asking myself if having the foam
grooved on one side only but also with drilled holes
will work ok.
Foam down with the grooves against the mould/outer laminate and then a full surface flow medium on the inner skin side which has no grooves, flow medium outside the peel ply.
I hope this makes sense. ??
Anybody else infusing thin foam cores?
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