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pre preg , resin not covering whole part "help please"
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ice2T
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Hello to all, I'm still at a very early learning stage with composites , but would grateful of some professional advice or guidance to help me along the way.
I am useing 1 layer of easy preg for what is seeming to be a very awkward part to get Wright . As the description says for use of the easy preg is to oven cure for ten hours at 100c ' I have followed this instructions but 5 parts later I am still getting generally the same outcome of the parts. I have been looking on the forum for information of people with the same problems . What keeps popping up is a lot of people are talking about ramping up and down in the curing process.
So this is what I did I cured the part for 6 hours instead of ten , I started at 30c 1hr/50c1hr/75c1hr/60c1hr/ and you wouldn't believe it from the pictures but it actually came out better. As I am at loss now of what to do next please could anyone "Or everyone...lol help .....
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Again, I am not an expert but I don't think your ramp up/down time should be taken away from the cureing time. You still need 10 hours at 100c.
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as above, are you leaving your vacuum on?
You need to keep the pump running for better results.
As well do you have a perfect sealed bag?
Without a well sealed bag you dont even have to start the curing because you'll keep getting bad results.
How is the surface of your mould?
as for the curing cycle try following: 3hours 65°C, 2hours 85°C, 2hours 105 °C, 1hour 115°C.
as above the change between temperatures should be slow and steady, if you are working with a kitchen oven this will be
more difficult
Matthieu Libeert
Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports
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www.mat2composites.com
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Hi this is the sursurface of the the mold which is constructed useing the uni mold system and seems to have a a good finish , I also had thoughts that because having full vacume all way through the curing cycle that the vacume could be pulling the resin off the part before being able to set....?
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Thanks my friend for advice, yes I'm going to try putting it back up to the ten hours but slow the whole ramp time down and even it out amongst the ten hours ....thanks
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When using prepreg you typically use a non perforated release film so it doesn't bleed the resin out of the fabric.
The slow ramp rate and dwell periods are pretty important if you want a decent finish, the 1st lower temperature dwell period allows the resin to reduce in viscosity so it flows but doesn't cure then the higher temperature does the curing.
Ideally you also need to control the cooling period too so it doesn't distort, but normally you can just leave it in the oven until it's reached close to room temp.
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pre preg , resin not covering whole part "help please"
ice2T
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11 Years Ago
I'm possibly not the best person to comment as I haven't personally used pre-preg before, but from...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
Hi my friend thankyou for your reply which is very welcome , What you're saying about the...
ice2T
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11 Years Ago
Hi my friend thanks for your reply it is very welcome , I'm going to try and control the ramping via...
ice2T
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11 Years Ago
Again, I am not an expert but I don't think your ramp up/down time should be taken away from the...
Brian_s
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11 Years Ago
as above, are you leaving your vacuum on? You need to keep the pump running for better results. As...
matthieutje65
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11 Years Ago
Hi this is the sursurface of the the mold which is constructed useing the uni mold system and seems...
ice2T
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11 Years Ago
Thanks my friend for advice, yes I'm going to try putting it back up to the ten hours but slow the...
ice2T
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11 Years Ago
When using prepreg you typically use a non perforated release film so it doesn't bleed the resin out...
ChrisR
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11 Years Ago
You don't mention which pre-preg you are using our Easy-Preg Surface layer or normal Vari-preg?...
Warren (Staff)
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11 Years Ago
Hi Warren I'm the chap that went outside to look at your bonnet on your car in the car park if you...
ice2T
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11 Years Ago
So a single layer of Easy Preg surface layer with no backing? If so you may find that is causing...
Warren (Staff)
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11 Years Ago
Ok my friend , ill give it a shot makes sense.....cheers
ice2T
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11 Years Ago
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