Trying to mold my doors...:((((


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The Fibreglass King
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One other thing if you are not using a Rapid Tooling System and are building the mould traditionally you have to apply a couple of layers at a time let them completely cure then ad further layers this will prevent high exotherme temperatures which may cause, print through and distortion to your mould,
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man work more simple not try to invent bike. polyster resin and 450 frp for mold for first layer tissue 25gr. 

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@ tomdesign, I totally agree keep it simple! 😉
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So I have a really good feeling about this....

The working conditions were 13* celsius and medium humidity. I had to end up mixing 3 batches of gelcoat. The first batch was mixed at 2% and started to kick just as I finished that batch. The second batch was also mixed at 2% and started to kick waaaay too early (had to toss half that batch). The third batch was mixed at 1.5%. Altogether it took about 2.5 kg of gelcoat (including the ~500 g I had to toss due to rapid catalysis).

It's difficult to brush gelcoat on a vertical surface but overall I'm happy with how it turned out.


I'm not sure if I'm gonna lay a second coat of gelcoat. If I do, it will have to be rolled on because I don't have enough to brush on another coat...

Edited 11 Years Ago by BlackNDecker
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After waiting a little over 4 hours, I laid down a quick second coat with a roller on the large flat areas....comprising about 700 g of gel coat catalyzed at roughly 1.8%. The surface of the preceding coat was tacky (left finger prints) but did not leave residue on my finger.

I must be doing something wrong because it still took a little over 3 kg to cover the door. I can't seem to get it to brush out as smooth as the video shows. FWIW, I am using identical brushes.
Edited 11 Years Ago by BlackNDecker
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It's too cold in your garage. That's why you apply such a thick coat, the viscosity is higher. That's why you need more time to apply the gelcoat, and that's why it then starts to kick off too early.
Let's hope you didn't apply the second coat too early and too thick and it will develop orange peel again.

Here is a video of a similar resin, optimold (I strongly assume it is the same as unimould). Look how fast he's working, no fooling around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GzquRynX-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvlrFogA_8
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Yeh this is what I hate about ester based gelcoats and resins. The application is always so stressful, the first few times I used it I felt like I was defusing a bomb. I used to always have it kick on me too, wasting heaps and occasionally causing a lot of voids in my laminate. These days I've gotten better at using it and its ok, though I still would never mix a 1kg or 2kg mass in one hit. Biggest I will do is 350-450g or so (a cup). Apply that quickly, then mix the next batch. Move strategically to cover the area I'm doing. Makes it a bit easier. 

Hope I has turned out a bit better for you this time mate. 
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It's too cold in your garage. That's why you apply such a thick coat, the viscosity is higher. That's why you need more time to apply the gelcoat, and that's why it then starts to kick off too early.
Let's hope you didn't apply the second coat too early and too thick and it will develop orange peel again.

Here is a video of a similar resin, optimold (I strongly assume it is the same as unimould). Look how fast he's working, no fooling around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GzquRynX-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvlrFogA_8




The gelcoat was stored in the house and mixed in the house. I really don't think the temperature of the gelcoat itself had anything to do with the application thickness. 

Is there a way I can tell if the gelcoat orange peeled before I apply the laminate??
Edited 11 Years Ago by BlackNDecker
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Hi blackNdecker,
                                 It does make quite a bit of difference to the gel coat if it's not applied at the optimum temperature. It will most definitely need more gel to cover an area thus be harder to even out because  it's thick and you have to much gel on the surface.  Your gel was probably be colder than the ambient  temperature aswell! As for seeing Orange  peel under a second coat it would  almost impossible to tell if you have a really thick  layer of gel!  But saying all of that your gel coat looks a lot  tidier 😁 
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I wouldn't worry about orange peel anyway, you can flat that out with 1200 after. 
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