Oil Catch Tank


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Finished the mould and pulled the first half of an oil catch tank for a customers Hillclimb car. The plan is to pull a second half, bond the two together and then trim off the flange. Done with infusion 200grm CF - 2 x 290grm E Glass - 200grm CF. Weight of one half is 123grms, could probably loose one layer of E Glass. Capacity when finished will be 2 ltrs.

Warren

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I cant imagine it being a major problem in the short term though as a catch can shouldnt be getting much oil through it anyway on a properly tuned engine with well managed crank case breather/ventilation system. 


Depends on the engine setup really. My car sees a bit of blow-by on track duty, but that's on a built motor running a lot of boost and on ethanol. But to be honest, without baffles inside the can, 99% of the oil vapours will blow straight through it anyway. I'd keep an eye on it, but I agree it's probably nothing to be concerned about.
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Hanaldo (28/02/2014)
I cant imagine it being a major problem in the short term though as a catch can shouldnt be getting much oil through it anyway on a properly tuned engine with well managed crank case breather/ventilation system. 


Depends on the engine setup really. My car sees a bit of blow-by on track duty, but that's on a built motor running a lot of boost and on ethanol. But to be honest, without baffles inside the can, 99% of the oil vapours will blow straight through it anyway. I'd keep an eye on it, but I agree it's probably nothing to be concerned about.


I would be interested where you get the 99% fromSmile I have done quite a bit of catch tank testing on race engines over the years and the exhaust/filter in the picture works well at separating the oil droplets from the air and retaining it within the tank. You have to be careful with baffles, fit them in the wrong place and you can build up quite a bit of back pressure within the tank restricting the air flow and therefor defeating the object really.

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I would be interested where you get the 99% from I have done quite a bit of catch tank testing on race engines over the years and the exhaust/filter in the picture works well at separating the oil droplets from the air and retaining it within the tank. You have to be careful with baffles, fit them in the wrong place and you can build up quite a bit of back pressure within the tank restricting the air flow and therefor defeating the object really.

Warren 

 

Is there a filter in the can? If so, it's not an empty system and will be doing more than the simple in-out empty cans. Out of interest,is the car this is going on street driven? 

I agree that care needs to be taken with baffle placement, which is why functioning oil air separators need to be properly designed. Volume, baffles and flow. The idea is to slow the air down enough to allow the oil and water vapours to condense and separate from the air. An empty tank will not slow the air enough to allow this to happen. Obviously the air flow should not be slowed so much as to become a restriction, hence why volume is important. Trying to achieve flow and high vapour separation in a tank under 2L in volume is always going to be difficult. 

Don't take my comments the wrong way, I don't mean to bad mouth your product. Obviously this all needs to be balanced with the customers needs, and if the car is street driven then it will always be a compromise as no recirculating catch can setup will be 100% efficient. 
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Hanaldo (01/03/2014)
I would be interested where you get the 99% from I have done quite a bit of catch tank testing on race engines over the years and the exhaust/filter in the picture works well at separating the oil droplets from the air and retaining it within the tank. You have to be careful with baffles, fit them in the wrong place and you can build up quite a bit of back pressure within the tank restricting the air flow and therefor defeating the object really.

Warren 

 

Is there a filter in the can? If so, it's not an empty system and will be doing more than the simple in-out empty cans. Out of interest,is the car this is going on street driven? 

I agree that care needs to be taken with baffle placement, which is why functioning oil air separators need to be properly designed. Volume, baffles and flow. The idea is to slow the air down enough to allow the oil and water vapours to condense and separate from the air. An empty tank will not slow the air enough to allow this to happen. Obviously the air flow should not be slowed so much as to become a restriction, hence why volume is important. Trying to achieve flow and high vapour separation in a tank under 2L in volume is always going to be difficult. 

Don't take my comments the wrong way, I don't mean to bad mouth your product. Obviously this all needs to be balanced with the customers needs, and if the car is street driven then it will always be a compromise as no recirculating catch can setup will be 100% efficient. 


Not offended hence the smiley face in my reply. As I see it when you post on a public forum you have to accept comments both good and badSmile
This particular tank is going on a Formula Student car being built by a university I have been helping. So no street use and only short run times. The tank is required as part of the regulations, all cars must have a catch tank capable of holding a minimum of 0.92L.

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