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Jdmleesy
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I'm havin trouble with my first infusion where iv got a tiny air leak sumwhere and I can't find it.
Iv even ripped the bag off it and started again making sure to be carefull sticking it dwn to the gum but still the same
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Is there a certain way to not get leaks or should I just get a ultra sonic detector
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justas (07/02/2014)
I am new in infusion and would be appreciated for any advice.
My though is to make boom infused from inside as there are many additional layers in some places inside. So I made a two-sided mold.
I put necessary laminate on a table, just glued slightly with spry together. Then peel-ply with a reserve. Then lay net only on the bottom. Another strip on top of tube later. All this I lay to one part of mold. From one end I connected resin inflow hose just 10cm inside on the bottom where is a net. Then I put hard smaller tube covered by vacuum film agglutinated with sealing tape along the mold. Then I lay another net strip on the top and folded all ends of laminate correctly around the hard tube, before connected vacuum hose on the other end of mold at the top between peel-ply and net. After I extracted the hard tube from the inside and slightly folded inside all laminate to cover with a top side of mold. Before covering I lay seal around a perimeter and covered with a top mold. Sealed up both ends and tautened all sides of mold together every 50cm. The I vacuumed it and everything looks great for 15 minutes.
So, there are no leaking. I didn't put a spiral as a tube is D=75mm and I think the net is enough for resin flow.After 20 minutes infusion I observed resin flow in vacuuming end of mold, but it flows with air bubbles. I tried this 4 times and the result is similar. After demolding there are small bubbles of air on the top of the product.
Where is this air from and whats wrong?
Thanks!
Looks well thought out. If you had a perfectly sealed bag and the resin got to the catch pot that is good. You say you haven't done an infusion before so I think you are worried about seeing air in the vacuum line where it comes out of you molding. That is normal . When you infuse you can watch your resin front look like its boiling and that is fairly normal. But notice as the front travels the area behind it becomes clear. so when the front gets to the vacuum output tube I always let the remainder of my input resin flow until it is almost all used up to kind of aid in flushing out the bubbles at the catchpot. Also when I make a mold I try to have more distance for the resin to flow through the stack at the catchpot end so any bubbles will be cut off of the finished part. Hope this makes sense.
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Vaccume bagging leak
Jdmleesy
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11 Years Ago
An ultra sonic detector is the best option.. Vac innovation do a good one. Dont get the ones they...
morepower
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jdmleesy (31/01/2014)[/b][hr]I'm havin trouble with my first infusion where iv got a tiny...
fgayford
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11 Years Ago
Hello Im an apprentice aircraft structures technician and i work mainly with composites my company...
Pro-Comp
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11 Years Ago
If you are having leak issues it may be better for you to envelope bag the part,make sure you have...
carbonfibreworks
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11 Years Ago
What's the easiest way to envelope it
Jdmleesy
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11 Years Ago
Cut out a two sheets of bag-film quite a bit larger than the whole mold.. put one on the table top,...
Dravis
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11 Years Ago
Create a bag using your bagging film/ tape and and insert the mould into the bag. Chris...
carbonfibreworks
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11 Years Ago
Thanks everyone il give it all a go tomorrow
Jdmleesy
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jdmleesy (31/01/2014)[/b][hr]Thanks everyone il give it all a go tomorrow[/quote] In my...
fgayford
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]fgayford (02/02/2014)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jdmleesy (31/01/2014)[/b][hr]Thanks everyone il...
andygtt
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11 Years Ago
Have to agree with Fred, the white plastic infusion mesh is a paint to get to form to a mould and...
ajb100
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]ajb100 (02/02/2014)[/b][hr]Have to agree with Fred, the white plastic infusion mesh is a...
fgayford
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11 Years Ago
I will defo do that Fred thank you although it didn't look like it had pierced it there b4 but it...
Jdmleesy
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jdmleesy (02/02/2014)[/b][hr]I will defo do that Fred thank you although it didn't look...
fgayford
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11 Years Ago
Thanx Fred, This is one of the best try on pic. Middle next week I'll make some from others to...
justas
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]justas (08/02/2014)[/b][hr]Thanx Fred, This is one of the best try on pic. Middle next...
fgayford
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11 Years Ago
Ok so iv just bagged up the mould and I think its worked. iv tried abit of everyone's advise iv...
Jdmleesy
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jdmleesy (04/02/2014)[/b][hr]Ok so iv just bagged up the mould and I think its worked. iv...
carbonfibreworks
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11 Years Ago
Yes it went well vaccume wise all the way through thanks everyone I had a few problems with the...
Jdmleesy
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11 Years Ago
Bagging
Jdmleesy
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11 Years Ago
I like the saucepan catchpot!!
Warren (Staff)
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11 Years Ago
Ha thanks warren had to cut costs sumwhere I use the same lid for degassing in a bigger pot
Jdmleesy
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11 Years Ago
I am new in infusion and would be appreciated for any advice. My though is to make boom infused from...
justas
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]justas (07/02/2014)[/b][hr]I am new in infusion and would be appreciated for any advice....
fgayford
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11 Years Ago
I have to ask what you did to seal the mould split/flange so that air can not get in?
Fasta
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11 Years Ago
Yes, spiral can damage vacuum film. Here one of worst attempts Mold opened
justas
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11 Years Ago
Your application is shouting to me OOA pregreg and bladder pressure tube rather than infusion. How...
ChrisR
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Right, bladder would be the best. My though is to make it from silicone, but not for this tube as it...
justas
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11 Years Ago
Normal 0 false false false EN-GB X-NONE X-NONE...
ChrisR
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11 Years Ago
The problem was in wrong vacuum film. After infusion resin ate out some micro holes in minutes. I...
justas
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11 Years Ago
To prevent leaking I am using special vacuum sealing type like this . I use it to bond vacuum film...
justas
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11 Years Ago
Sorry no ropes but grooves:) Here is a picture.
justas
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11 Years Ago
Interesting thread. Are ready made bags (in various sizes) available somewhere, rather than making...
macgtech
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11 Years Ago
Just bought Dahlar RBG 460 and will try it. The first one was tubular too, but for general usage,...
justas
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