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cpkielycua
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I have perfected my use of the surface and backing layers of your prepreg, but see room for improvement. Even with the highest continuous run vacuum there are still some pinholes. Also Id like to have a slight buffer to be able to wet sand and polish after molding. Lastly the stray fiber from the surfacing layer can ruin the otherwise perfect surface.
If you offered your standard prepreg backing layer with the 'surface layer film' on top it would be perfect. A very resin rich (even if not the perfect ratio) would solve all my layup issues. Essentially taking your backing layers and adding the film making it a double rich layer. This would solve the pinhole problem, the stray fiber problem, and the wet sanding allowance problem.
Please let me know if you are able to carry, order, or modify from a supplier, Im sure it will be hit with many orders!
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Tominator (03/09/2013)
Is that the PRF material?
No this is another material supplied by SHD.. I tried it a year ago when I first started and it was full of pin holes but was nice and clear just a shame about all the pin holes... But a year later and a few parts made since I started I have learned quite a lot, even though I still have a LONG way to go before I am happy. (you always keep learning more so that never stops but I still feel I have a lot to learn before I can be confident that I can take on customer work and be happy)
It is harder to get a good surface compared to easypreg/ VTF261 but it can be done... The material the original poster is using is the easiest to use of all the Out of Autoclave materials.. If you cannot get perfect parts with that you would struggle with any other material.. But it is about getting everything just right... The material he is using does not need changing to improve its finish and ALL of the other manufacturers have been trying to copy it for years and none have got it right. The down side is you either pay Easy Composites prices or IF you want to buy direct you have to now buy 50sq/m of the material as a minimum order.. That is why I have been testing other materials and all of them need different lay ups and breather stacks and/or cooked differently ect.. So there is no one way that works for every material... Again Tom another reason someone showing you how it is done may not work if you change anything or have to use a different materiale ect.. Even how the oven works and how fast it heats up will make a difference.. So one oven my be perfect but use another without knowing the different way it works may leave you with parts that do not look right... My first attempt was not good but this one is perfect... It is due to more experience and knowing my box oven will work how it needs to for the material to flow and then cure at the correct rate.
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Cumbersome surface layer *product request*
cpkielycua
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]cpkielycua (26/08/2013)[/b][hr]I have perfected my use of the surface and backing layers...
morepower
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12 Years Ago
I'll keep working on the pinholes, but still require a different product for the other above...
cpkielycua
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]cpkielycua (26/08/2013)[/b][hr]I'll keep working on the pinholes, but still require a...
morepower
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12 Years Ago
Do you use a perforated release film or non perf? Non Perferated Do you run the surface layer...
cpkielycua
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12 Years Ago
Although if I find a good in mold UV epoxy clearcoat, I may not need the prepreg sacrificial layer....
cpkielycua
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]cpkielycua (27/08/2013)[/b][hr] Do you use a perforated release film or non perf? Non...
morepower
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]cpkielycua (26/08/2013)[/b][hr]I have perfected my use of the surface and backing layers...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
Here is a part I made yesterday which is straight out of the mould and only been trimmed up.. No...
morepower
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12 Years Ago
Is that the PRF material?
Tominator
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Tominator (03/09/2013)[/b][hr]Is that the PRF material?[/quote] No this is another...
morepower
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12 Years Ago
My results look just like the pictures posted......but they have pinholes. In certain lights they...
cpkielycua
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12 Years Ago
What backing material are you using?
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
I must confess, I know this might be taboo........ but I leave the textured carrier layer on the...
cpkielycua
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12 Years Ago
I mean backing carbon. What do you mean by "textured carrier layer"? Peel ply?
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
I use the surfacing layer, then 2 layers of the 220g backing with a few strips of 220 reinforcment
cpkielycua
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12 Years Ago
Must be lack of full vacuum, or curing ramp.
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
I use the surfacing layer, then 2 layers of the 220g backing with a few strips of 220 reinforcment
cpkielycua
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12 Years Ago
what is your oven ramp temps, ultimate temp and dwell time? I would assume that with a slow/proper...
20_rc51_00
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]20_rc51_00 (25/01/2014)[/b][hr]what is your oven ramp temps, ultimate temp and dwell time?...
morepower
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11 Years Ago
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