How to get a gloss finish on my 3D printed mould


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Good afternoon

I've read all the topics in this forum but I'm still confused so I kindly ask an help.

I’m experimenting the production of a compression mould by using my 3D printer.
The part I want to manufacture is made by Carbon fiber and has 1.2mm thickness. I want to cure it at room temperature at the beginning and if everything is OK I will cure in a oven at 60°C in the future.

Here a picture of my 3D printed mould (made by ABS but I can choose different material  such as PLA, Polycarbonate, ASA and so on).
I have removed all the 3D printing layers and defects by using sand paper; here is how it looks like at the end of the sanding process:


I have applied 7 layers of releasant wax and polysh the mouls after the last one by using a clean cloth.
I have prepared a sandwich of carbon fiber and resin and put inside the compression mold and squeeze it by using 300Kg of weight; I cure it at room temperature.

Here the picture if my first carbon fiber trial part.
Please note that the right side has been painted because the CF part just out of the mould has a matte finish which I don't like at all (I want a gloss finish without any additional painting or polish treatment). I can see major defects which I think are due to a lack of material (my sandwich was too thin) and I'm not worry about it.



How can I get a gloss finish on my carbon fiber part just out of the mould ?
Is it true that the only way to get a gloss carbon fiber part is to have a gloss mould surface? If the answer is yes, can you explain me the reason ?

If I need to treat my 3D mould (ABS material) so it became gloss, which process and materials do I have to purchase?
I’ve read about filler and other stuff but I’m a little bit lost because normally a 3D printed mould is not commonly used.

Can I use S120 directly on the ABS (or PLA, Polycaronate, ect) mould or do I have to apply a primer first?
Or do I have to apply to the mould an epoxy resin first?
I'm a little bit lost and confused because all the info I found are not referred to compression mold and do not require a gloss finish carbon fiber part as I would like.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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XTC is probably the most suitable solution for your current plan, but it doesn't work quite as well as they claim, still needs a bit of sanding. When you're trying to make a matched compression mould, this gets tricky.

In all honesty, if you want a gloss finish then I dont think your approach is terribly well suited to anything more than a one off that you then clear coat. You need the exact finish on the mould that you want on the part because that is the surface the resin is replicating. You cant expect resin to come out glossy when you're moulding off a dull surface.

Why dont you 3D print a male version of what you want to make, sand it to 1200 grit, and then make a fibreglass mould of it? You can then polish up the fibreglass mould to a really high standard and bang out parts with a consistently great finish?
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Hanaldo - 10/9/2018 1:32:37 AM
XTC is probably the most suitable solution for your current plan, but it doesn't work quite as well as they claim, still needs a bit of sanding. When you're trying to make a matched compression mould, this gets tricky.

In all honesty, if you want a gloss finish then I dont think your approach is terribly well suited to anything more than a one off that you then clear coat. You need the exact finish on the mould that you want on the part because that is the surface the resin is replicating. You cant expect resin to come out glossy when you're moulding off a dull surface.

Why dont you 3D print a male version of what you want to make, sand it to 1200 grit, and then make a fibreglass mould of it? You can then polish up the fibreglass mould to a really high standard and bang out parts with a consistently great finish?

Hi Hanaldo

Thanks for your advices!

I want to try to get a mould from a 3D print because it can be a very powerful method and much faster to manufacture respect the fiberglass mould in some cases.

I though about print a male and use it to build a fiberglass mould but the male I've get from my Prusa has a lot of small defects that I nedd to fix.
Plus if the male surface is not gloss also the fiberglass mould surface has to be polished to get a gloss finish too. Am I right? 
So If I have to polish the fiberglass mould like I have to on my 3D print mould maybe it's much faster print the mould and treat it respect print a male, make a fiberglass mould and polish it.

I don't know if what I'm telling is correct because I have no direct experience in this field but I'm using the one which my father accumulate in more than 60 years of RC planes construction.

All your advices are more than welcomed!
Thanks
Matteo




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