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I have attempted to cast a model using Easy Composites' Fast Cast Polyurethane Casting Resin. The cast failed as the resin did not fully cure. Half the model cured but the rest came out like thick honey, see image above. I'm not sure why this happened, but my immediate problem is, how do I clean the uncured resin goo from my mold? The mold is made of RTV silicone.

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How long did you cure and at which temperature? 
It can be quit a mess to clean :s I would try to clean it with acetone...
If you think you mixed the A+B well at good ratios you could still try to put it into an oven or hope for it to fully cure

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I opened the mold after an hour at room temp.
I did a previous test the day before, on that occaision the resin had began to cure within minutes of being mixed, and I was unable to finish pouring it before it had begun to cure.
I weigh the resin in two seperate containers to make sure I get the 50/50 solution, before mixing them together.
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It's very rare that fast cast won't cure at all unless the mixing ratio is well out.

What looks like has happened here is that your quite thick moulding has absorbed some of the heat used to exotherm the cure hence its not cured.

I would apply some heat in an oven for a few hours to force a cure.  If it still doesnt cure then something has gone seriously wrong with the resin. 

Acetone would be the best method to clean off the liquid goo if you cant get it to cure.

Warren Penalver
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Hi Warren

The residue in my pouring container didn't harden either. I suspect the resin was badly mixed, in that Part A probably wasn't shaken. I don't know how big a difference that might make but in all the containers I bought from Easy Composities, the Part A appears to be seperated into a thick residue at the bottom, and a thin liquid on top. I did two tests prior to my casting efforts. The first ended up much as this cast has done, a thick honey like sludge. The second, when I shook the Part A for a longer period of time, cured very rapidly.

My first cast attempt was also a failure as the resin cured so fast, I never managed to get more than 10% of my mold filled (this is my first ever mold).

I've clean the mold now, using acetone as advised, and it appears to have worked. I'll try for a third time (when my children aren't taking up all my time) and post the results. Smile
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It seems like it is a big part to cast... The reason why it cures so fast is that you probably make big batches of resin at the time...
The resin cures with a exothermal reaction, its a chemical reaction creating heat...meaning the more material you have the hotter the center of your pot will be, 
the faster the resin will cure... If you make smaller amounts at the time you should have more time, you could pour them on top of each other and they should bond 
well to each other...
Maybe warren can confirm this, because I know it works with the Fastcast PU I use, but dont know how the one from easycomposites will react

Btw great to hear you were able to clean you mould Wink

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I think the answer is simple, he has already explained that he did not mix the separate parts before mixing them together, so he was skimming the top off a part, which cured fast, and the sludge went into the second, which hardly cured.

Get new resin, shake/stir the individual containers, and then mix correctly 50/50.

A friend mixes this on large scale, 30kg containers, and he stirs part A + B separately with a drill and stirring attachment.

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You definitely need to shake the fast cast tubs to ensure they are properly mixed.

There isnt much you can do to slow the cure down really, other than work in smaller sections or work in a colder environment initially.

Warren Penalver
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I mixed 170 grammes in total. I don't know if thats a big mix or not, as these are my first attempts at resin casting
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You have to be very carefull when mixing small quantities.

If you mix 85 + 85 gr from two diferent cups you may (:pinchSmile have a problem. 
 
When you stir B component into A, you have to asure to drain EVERY GRAM.

I mean: If 5 grams from B stay on the cup's wall, it represent about a 6% of the B component. You will be mixing 85 gr A + 80 gr B.

This % of lost material is bigger as the mix is smaller.

What you can do to avoid that, is to mix on the same cup.

Stir the A 85 grams first. Then, on the same cup, add another 85 gr B. Then mix everything carefully.

(always mix each component separately before mixing)
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