CF wheelchair seat pan advice needed?


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Dickie
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Hi,
Currently I use 5.5mm non-structual interior grade hardwood plywood (from Wickes) for my wheelchair seat pan, it spans a distance of 350mm. On top of this I place my foam/memory foam cushion. The plywood gives me the right degree of rigidity/flexibility but adds more weight to my ultra-lightweight wheelchair than I would like. I would like to replace the plywood seat pan with carbon fibre or CF sandwich but don't know what type and thickness would give me a similar feel to 5.5mm plywood? I know some top-end wheelchair manufacturers give the option of carbon seat pans but I they're very rigid with little flex, especially for someone of my low weight. It doesn't have to one complete seat pan front to back, it can be slats.
NB: I weigh 53kg
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I don't see why you can't change it over to a carbon sandwich panel.  A cored panel like that is the most efficient way of doing things in terms of stiffness to weight.  We have a 6mm foam cored panel that might work for your needs. High Strength Carbon Fibre Foam Core Panel 6mm  The panel has a foam core and does have a similar sort of stiffness to typical plywood of similar thickness so i would expect the flexibility to be similar.  My only concern would be long term durability depending on how much it routinely flexes, shock loading etc.  However there is no easy way of finding that out without testing it.  You could cut it into slats, but the sheet would from a structural perspective work more efficiently as a single piece.

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I built race car seats with only two plies of carbon no sandwich if its secured along the perimeter that's all it needs , not only much lighter than plywood but you can mold it to your butt


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Thankyou for both replies both are appreciated. Initially I might try the carbon sandwich as it's the simpler option. I could buy a sheet the same dimensions as my current plywood seat pan and if after trying it I feel it's too stiff then I could always try cutting it into say 2" or 3" slats and space them out to give the desired stiffness/flexibility. 
There's also the option of cutting slots into the sheet similar to the attached image?

The other image looks to be a CF wheelchair complete with CF solid seat pan. I imagine the chair is mega expensive. I don't know whether the seat pan is solid CF or a CF sandwich, it's looks to be about 5mm or 6mm?
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Anything over 2mm thick is deemed structural and for your application i would go down the route warren has suggested with a cored panel. If you can find a local water jet cutter and give them the material and a template they should be able to help you out
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scottracing (06/05/2017)
If you can find a local water jet cutter and give them the material and a template they should be able to help you out
If I decided on the slat option, can the CF foam core panel be cut with a fine jigsaw blade?
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A fine jigsaw blade will cut the foam core panel very easily.

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Thankyou for the replies. Sorry I'm late replying but I've been in hospital. I will get on an order the panel Warren recommends 
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