Best way to joint fabricated carbon strut structure.


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Hi there,
I am pretty new to working with carbon, but have a good background in other materials.

I am working on designing a strutted framework, fabricated out of 5mm pultruded carbon tube, and I thought it best to seek some advice about how best to make the joints. My plan is to build a jig which holds everything flat, and use a braided sleeve to form a reinforced skin. However since I also plan on painting the structure, I don't necessarily need the braid for aesthetics, however I also don't want 'spider knees' at each join. 

To simplify things, lets assume i am building a small chair, with some structural triangulation, which needs to hold about 10kg ( so in real world terms I guess it has to be over-engineered to not fail under 50kg, or something of the kind ).

In my crude drawing I have 3 potential jointing processes, but I wonder if there is another I have not considered, or if I would be better off making a mould and a core, and using a cast component joined by tubes, rather than attempting to join struts together. 

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I generally consider an adhesive to be something which adheres with a chemical bond, in this kind of setting. Hence I roughed the carbon with 240 grit and degreased the alloy in acetone. Using an adhesive that bonds, this should be sufficient. It would appear that the 515 adheres in the same manner that a silicone sealant does, and not with the tenacity of a cyanoacrylate or - even - the epoxy resin used with the carbon fibre which seems to actually adhere to aluminium pretty well.

Of all of the miles ridden on the framework built, the only failures I had were on joints where the ET515 was used, which I had to reinforce, en route, with garden wire (fancy).

What I learned is that carbon is a material that can be used for fabricated structures, however that any interfacing between it an another material is past what I can handle with my limited experience. ET515 is not the right adhesive, this is for sure. We traveled over 250 miles with 20+kg of luggage on carbon framed racks www.laureltache.tumblr.com

at over £30 when you include the syringe, nozzles and adhesive, ET515 is a very expensive mirror-tack.
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