Aprilia MXV 450 : Motocross full carbon project completed.


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Thanasis
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After 1 year, many hours of work, 16 moulds, some carbon parts born for scrap, some of them with very short riding life, some sticking conditions from moulds to parts and vise versa, I finished my motocross carbon project!

From plastic:
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/838f6136-3f83-44aa-8814-1489.jpg


To carbon:
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/65e5ac0e-1de4-4f78-be22-0c27.jpg


The loss of weight was not the main issue, the main goal of project was to make the rear fender stop cracking while riding in heavy mud and specially with supsension bottoming on bigger jumps. In muddy conditions the rear fender was bound to broke damaging also the rear side panels.
Making just the rear fender in carbon didn't help very much the situation. Final solution achieved by making the three seperate plastic parts (rear mudgard and the two side panels) just in one piece. A three piece mould was needed for this purpose:
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/5b26b33a-5f52-4f54-a93e-c6dd.jpg

Unfortunately the first mould produced a slightly wrong dimensioned part (with a lot of aesthetic problems also). The one piece tail could not fit correctly in the subframe. Both mould and part go straight to trash. Starting from scratch the mould, this time the 3 plastic parts were tighten in the subframe and the mould was produced with all of them sitting in the right position.
The mk.1 part was good enough but not perfect. it last a lot of motocross riding hours but failed a little bit in very heavy mud. It was the time for mk.2 rear fender, this time more stiffer and 100 grams more heavier than mk.1.
Mk.2 turned to be perfect and very good looking.
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/e35f5d8f-9a3e-4361-bfd8-ff57.jpg  
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/a2b3873c-8d40-44d9-af11-bfa9.jpg


http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/2824a3ff-e2b4-470b-9d82-51a9.jpg


http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/60f9e3e7-4673-44f2-8c78-a019.jpg


http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/fd9ed53b-a57e-47f5-bab5-1d5a.jpg


It is tested in the mudiest conditions with success!

The fever of carbon modification was all over me and the rest of the parts were mend to be carbon also....
Edited 9 Years Ago by Izo78
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Very nice job! My one comment would be 15mm is insanely thick, I feel that could be refined further. For perspective, I was involved in a mining project here building carbon fibre haul pack trays for trucks hauling stone out of the pit. Those trays were 20mm thick, and they were carrying 400 tonne...
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Hanaldo - 10/18/2019 6:48:26 AM
Very nice job! My one comment would be 15mm is insanely thick, I feel that could be refined further. For perspective, I was involved in a mining project here building carbon fibre haul pack trays for trucks hauling stone out of the pit. Those trays were 20mm thick, and they were carrying 400 tonne...
Thank you Hanaldo!... he he he, yes indeed, it is insane thick, especially comparing to aluminium that is much smaller (which it did cracked and welded many times before after some hard suspension bottoming in over jumping landings). With 10 mm thickness is already proved to be more than ok in my old version of subframe, since after a very bad crash (that resulted also in a broken femur) the subframe cracked near the exhaust mounting point (the silencer take a big hit resulting in totally destroying, cracking and bending the titanium headers) but the mounting points of frame were totally safe. Now with my new mould I am totally safe that I can trim the inside of mounting points in order to fit into the frame without risking coming to small on thickness (I have already scrap one subframe for this reason with the previous mould and it hurt me a lot!). After all the thickness is only positioned in a very small area indicated in red square n the following picture, that really does not affect the overall weight of piece.
  
     


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     How it's going.
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                 please make some pics! always nice to see.
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                         Well done mate, really looks nice :)
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     nice work!!
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