XT135 Pinholes


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Hey guys,

Is anyone else using XT135 yet? How have your results been and what materials are you using for your patterns? 

I have been trying to make some moulds recently, and have used a bit more than 1m of the surface and 2m of the backing ply just making relatively smallish moulds (8 different moulds in total), but I haven't managed a single decent result yet. Every one of them comes out with pinholes, not all over the mould but enough to render them unusable. 

I am sure of my seal and I am sure of my oven and temp stability, so the one thing that I am unsure about is that I'm not using the XT135 with epoxy tooling board as being in Australia I don't have access to the S120 board sealer. So I have been making my patterns longhand by creating an initial plug in the conventional method of PU foam etc, then making a vinyl ester splash mould, and finally using that mould to infuse a new epoxy pattern. The epoxy patterns are great surface wise and cured up to 90 degrees for 24 hours, so shouldnt be any concerns there. Any Easy Composites staff reading this, are you aware of anyone else using the XT135 in this fashion? Can you see any reason this would cause issues? 


Does anyone have a solution for repairing these moulds to salvage them? The user guide states that they can be filled with a high temp epoxy gelcoat and sanded flat, but then the surface can't be polished up again and the S120 is needed again to bring the gloss back - obviously not an option for me. Has anyone tried flatting and polishing the surface of XT135, is it worth an attempt or no? Anyone have any other viable ideas for smoothly filling these pinholes? 

Will post pictures when I get a chance.
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No problem at all Matt! I've since used the moulds to produce some parts with XC110 which turned out well but have quite a rough feel to them due to the pinholes in the moulds haha. Won't be a problem for these initial parts as they will be clear coated anyway, but obviously I don't want to be clear coating every part when I go into production.

I'm going to do another test tomorrow, this time without the warm debulk. Having thought about it, the moulds I made in a hurry turned out a bit better, and I wonder if this is because I just did a room temperature debulk for 30 minutes rather than the two hours at 30 that I did on the first two. They still weren't perfect though, so I'm unsure. 
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Hanaldo - 6/7/2018 1:42:12 PM
No problem at all Matt! I've since used the moulds to produce some parts with XC110 which turned out well but have quite a rough feel to them due to the pinholes in the moulds haha. Won't be a problem for these initial parts as they will be clear coated anyway, but obviously I don't want to be clear coating every part when I go into production.

I'm going to do another test tomorrow, this time without the warm debulk. Having thought about it, the moulds I made in a hurry turned out a bit better, and I wonder if this is because I just did a room temperature debulk for 30 minutes rather than the two hours at 30 that I did on the first two. They still weren't perfect though, so I'm unsure. 

Small tests under controlled conditions; even it's it's just a matter of making up some 150mm x 150mm glass sheets. Given the unusual (i.e. I've never seen before) nature of your problem, we might need quite a scientific approach to find the cause. Let me know if you would like to guidance on what test steps to take.


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