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Tips and tricks on how to overlay this part?

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Dravis	Dravis posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 592, Visits: 1.9K	I just thin some regular EL2, with 1/4 of the normal hardener in alcohol and spray it on VERY thinly .. That gives a "tacky" surface that you can move the CF cloth around on and peel it of and re-apply.. It will be cured completely when the coating resin goes on top .. Just do not spray on too much .. And clean the spray bottle immediately after use ... "Sapere Aude"... Dare to KNOW! The written word is the only truly efficient vehicle for transmitting a complex concept from mind to mind... 103% of all people do not understand statistics... Do not adjust our mind, theres a fault in reality :-)
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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	Does spray adhesive stick better to plastic or eould it stick better to a layer of epoxy resin?
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Hanaldo	Hanaldo posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 2.5K, Visits: 28K	The spray adhesive will work the same on whatever substrate. I would recommend using something like a plastic primer though, and allow that to fully cure. Then the Super 77 spray adhesive that you linked earlier will work fine, no need to use an infusion grade adhesive because it's not going on the exposed surface of the carbon. Use it sparingly, you don't need much at all, just a very light mist. The issue you're likely going to have with this will be from thermal expansion. The epoxy sticks ok to the plastic, but not great. So what happens is when your car heats up in the sun, the plastic and the carbon expand, and then when it cools down again the plastic shrinks back to its normal size and the carbon stays slightly bigger. This is then enough to make the epoxy let go and you end up with bubbling carbon. So you really want to promote the adhesion as much as possible. I've never really had much luck with plastic primers and adhesion promoters, but I think it's worth a shot.
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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	Hanaldo (23/01/2016) The spray adhesive will work the same on whatever substrate. I would recommend using something like a plastic primer though, and allow that to fully cure. Then the Super 77 spray adhesive that you linked earlier will work fine, no need to use an infusion grade adhesive because it's not going on the exposed surface of the carbon. Use it sparingly, you don't need much at all, just a very light mist. The issue you're likely going to have with this will be from thermal expansion. The epoxy sticks ok to the plastic, but not great. So what happens is when your car heats up in the sun, the plastic and the carbon expand, and then when it cools down again the plastic shrinks back to its normal size and the carbon stays slightly bigger. This is then enough to make the epoxy let go and you end up with bubbling carbon. So you really want to promote the adhesion as much as possible. I've never really had much luck with plastic primers and adhesion promoters, but I think it's worth a shot. THIS IS WHAT I was worried about, hoping it does not happen
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TomDesign	TomDesign posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 454, Visits: 2.5K	i do tons of those nothing hard to overlay like 1 hour work.
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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	Well yesterday was the big day! Overlay ed the part and let me tell you it wasn't easy! Luckily I was prepared and a quickthinker and was able to fix most of the big issues that arised, mainly the area where the phone and dash pod is I knew there would be issues there. All in all though for my first time working with carbon fiber and it being such a big part to start with I am pretty happy! Today I will be doing the first top coat, and then trimming all the edges.
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Matthieu Libeert	Matthieu Libeert posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 955, Visits: 3.4K	good job so far! now come the fun part of sanding and recoating :p I have a new video coming online tomorrow on my youtube btw about that topic :p Matthieu Libeert Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports website: www.mat2composites.com
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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	matthieutje65 (25/01/2016) good job so far! now come the fun part of sanding and recoating :p I have a new video coming online tomorrow on my youtube btw about that topic :p No way! I may just wait for it then!
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TomDesign	TomDesign posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 454, Visits: 2.5K	so you used tacky spray?
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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	TomDesign (26/01/2016) so you used tacky spray? landed up just using epoxy and layed it down while it was wet.
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