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Tips and tricks on how to overlay this part?

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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Topic Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	Hey guys so I am wanting to cover my dash that I just fiberglassed a dashpod and a phone into. I ordered my carbon fiber (twill 5.7oz 3k) and I got my west systems epoxy/hardener and some resin pigments black. I've watched quite a bit of videos so I have a good idea on what to do, I only have two questions. First where should I start to wrap this dash? Should I work from the left side and work my way to the right, or work from the back to the front or start in the center and wrap it to each side. If you know what I mean? Just hoping to get a better idea on where to start wrapping this thing. Next question, I know everyone says to wait untill the first layer is tacky before placing the carbon, but I watched a video where buddy said to do the first layer let it cure fully, sand it and put a second coat. and then place the carbon on while its wet. he said it gives you more room for error, as you can easily remove the carbon withought disturbing the weave since its not sticky? Does this sound right to you? Hoping for any advice I can get!
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Fasta	Fasta posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 468, Visits: 3.5K	I would consider applying the carbon on the dry surface and then carefully wet it out and through. Gentle rolling and hand massage etc. Make sure the weave is flattened nice and make sure it well filled with resin. This way it is much easier to lay the cloth in place and get it nice and straight without waving or pulling. It can easily slide on the dry surface for good positioning. Can even use a bit of light spray glue if it needs a little help in places. Layup in epoxy. No peel ply. When green and not yet cured apply a filling coat of the West 105 resin but use it with the 207 hardener for clear coating. When this is cured sand it all fair and smooth. There should be enough thickness to sand and no matter if it touches the fibres a bit here or there. Just dont rub through it. Then spray coat with any two part clear paint or something like Duratec sunsheild. The clear paint may need a number of coats and probably more sanding back in-between. Only concern for me is that the resins will not likely stick to the dash plastic that well?? Fastacraft Facebook page Edited 9 Years Ago by Fasta
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Matthieu Libeert	Matthieu Libeert posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 955, Visits: 3.4K	I would go with a spraytack and work from the centre out and use the skinning coating epoxy from easycomposites...havent tried the new one yet so you should do a test piece first maybe, then finish with a clearcoat you might have seen a video tutorial I did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96adhXcFjTA same proces basicaly, but every project would need a different aproach and yo uwill probably encounter some small problems you'll need to fix on the spot Matthieu Libeert Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports website: www.mat2composites.com
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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	matthieutje65 (19/01/2016) I would go with a spraytack and work from the centre out and use the skinning coating epoxy from easycomposites...havent tried the new one yet so you should do a test piece first maybe, then finish with a clearcoat you might have seen a video tutorial I did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96adhXcFjTA same proces basicaly, but every project would need a different aproach and yo uwill probably encounter some small problems you'll need to fix on the spot Yes I've watched almost all of your videos! And I even found this forum thanks to you! I've based what I am planning to do off of that video you linked me and your iron man mask video, both have been very helpful and are the most well planned and most informative videos I could find on the process! So you recommend instead of using epoxy to secure the carbon to the dash I use a spray adhesive instead? I feel like spray adhesive might be easier to use as I could spray as I go and would probably make it allot easier to lay the carbon, but I'm worried about the bond to the plastic. When I use an epoxy on the top layer, will that seep through the carbon and also create a bond?
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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	It also looks like that FusionFix GP Spray Adhesive is not able to be shipped to my country (Canada) Is there any alternative that would be available in canada? do you reckon this would work? http://www.fibreglast.com/product/3M_Super_77_Spray_Adhesive_1404/adhesives Edited 9 Years Ago by deceased10
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Ronny	Ronny posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 58, Visits: 401	Be aware that a carbonfibre-dash will give alot of glare from the sunlight. This may limit your view out the windscreen pretty bad.
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Rich (Staff)	Rich (Staff) posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Administrators Posts: 167, Visits: 4.6K	You could use a matte-finish clear coat to avoid some of the reflectivity of a high-gloss finish.
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Hanaldo	Hanaldo posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 2.5K, Visits: 28K	Nah it's not so bad. One of my best selling products is a complete carbon fibre dash for a 57 Chev, it doesn't limit visibility at all. I've also got a carbon gauge holder in my car, it's no issue.
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deceased10	deceased10 posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 29, Visits: 154	Yeah not to worried about the glare, the car doesn't get driven much, and if it becomes an issue, I'll just tint the windows. looks like spray adhesive is going to be the best way to do this part. Any other suggestions and tips would be great
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Dravis	Dravis posted 9 Years Ago HOT Post Details
Group: Forum Members Posts: 592, Visits: 1.9K	I just thin some regular EL2, with 1/4 of the normal hardener in alcohol and spray it on VERY thinly .. That gives a "tacky" surface that you can move the CF cloth around on and peel it of and re-apply.. It will be cured completely when the coating resin goes on top .. Just do not spray on too much .. And clean the spray bottle immediately after use ... "Sapere Aude"... Dare to KNOW! The written word is the only truly efficient vehicle for transmitting a complex concept from mind to mind... 103% of all people do not understand statistics... Do not adjust our mind, theres a fault in reality :-)
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