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TURK
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Hi all,
Anybody used the expanding foam you can buy from the diy stores, in aerosol form.
I'd like to know what the difference is between that, and the 2 part stuff available. I understand that the 2 part stuff may be 'closed cell', probably making it harder. But can I get away with using the normal aerosol stuff usually used for insulation purposes ?
I'd like to spray it into a form ( female mould ) about the size of a shoe box, then demould the expanded spray foam, and then brush on layers of Pattern-Coat Primer to make it harder to use as a main male mould.
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Apologies, you had mentioned that's what you were doing, I had forgotten.
You might just want to be careful with using the casting resin, what sort of high temperatures are you talking about?? Unfortunately aluminium doesn't increase the Tg of the resin, it only increases the stability, so rather than getting hot spots the whole thing will stay at a similar temperature. So if your casting resin doesn't have a high Tg then it still won't be suitable.
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Hi Hanaldo,
I assume the 'Tg' is the 'Heat distortion temperature' of the resin. No 'Tg' information on the EC Vac-Cast Data Sheet as such, but there is a 'Distortion' figure shown as 80 °C
ABS becomes pliable between 88°C & 120°C which is it's 'Glass Transition Temperature' (Tg), varies according to thickness.
Forming temps I'll be using should be in the 90°C range for about 90 seconds.
So if I manage to make my plug solid enough, I may get away with it
I hope the Vac-Cast Epoxy Tooling Resin is up to the task, as it's sold as such 'for vacuum forming tools', as I can hardly send it back now !
Well spotted there Hanaldo, if you hadn't mentioned it I would of been none the wiser ! ....... learn a new thing everyday
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Expanding foam for mould, solid enough ?
TURK
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10 Years Ago
It works ok, but I wouldn't recommend it. It collapses lots, so you end up having to spend hours...
Hanaldo
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10 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo I was afraid somebody would say that, but not totally surprised. Is it available...
TURK
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10 Years Ago
Smooth-On are pretty global, I'd be surprised if they don't have a distributor in France or at least...
Hanaldo
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10 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo, I did find it in the end, the company do 'Smooth-On' products in France if anyones...
TURK
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10 Years Ago
it can be done, I made new wings for my car using the spray foam. Sprayed, trimmed with a saw to...
jaffa
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10 Years Ago
That's great work jaffa ....... amazing what some people can do. Even to undertake such a task, many...
TURK
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10 Years Ago
I think I found a far better supplier in France for 'Smooth-On' stuff, than the one mentioned above....
TURK
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10 Years Ago
thanks for the comments. Expanding foam was the aerosol from building suppliers, in this case...
jaffa
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10 Years Ago
It's always a good idea to lay a fibreglass skin over a foam pattern/plug just so you can then sand...
Fasta
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10 Years Ago
It's always a good idea to lay a fibreglass skin over a foam pattern/plug just so you can then sand...
TURK
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10 Years Ago
Actual PU foam (not the aerosol stuff) is closed cell, so the pattern coat primer won't harden it at...
Hanaldo
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10 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo for your time and expertise, very much appreciated. It makes great sense what...
TURK
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10 Years Ago
Apologies, you had mentioned that's what you were doing, I had forgotten. You might just want to...
Hanaldo
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10 Years Ago
Hi Hanaldo, I assume the 'Tg' is the 'Heat distortion temperature' of the resin. No 'Tg'...
TURK
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10 Years Ago
In essence, the HDT rating of a resin is a pretty useless value for most users, as it is the...
Hanaldo
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10 Years Ago
Hi Hanaldo, I hear you, and totally agree ........ but I haven't got to where I am with my...
TURK
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10 Years Ago
Absolutely agree mate, trial and error is all part of the fun! Honestly your project isn't really a...
Hanaldo
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10 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo, I fully understand mate, I did read some of your posts, sounds like interesting...
TURK
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10 Years Ago
Hanaldo, Sorry for the late reply. Just wanted to say that I have used expanding foam to make a...
Zedok
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10 Years Ago
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