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Expanding foam for mould, solid enough ?
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TURK
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Hi all,
Anybody used the expanding foam you can buy from the diy stores, in aerosol form.
I'd like to know what the difference is between that, and the 2 part stuff available. I understand that the 2 part stuff may be 'closed cell', probably making it harder. But can I get away with using the normal aerosol stuff usually used for insulation purposes ?
I'd like to spray it into a form ( female mould ) about the size of a shoe box, then demould the expanded spray foam, and then brush on layers of Pattern-Coat Primer to make it harder to use as a main male mould.
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It's always a good idea to lay a fibreglass skin over a foam pattern/plug just so you can then sand fair a thick primer or filler until it touches the firm skin here and there. Then add further primers etc.
If you just have the soft foam underneath then it becomes difficult to sand any paint or filler as if you sand to touch the foam then it digs a hole in it!
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It's always a good idea to lay a fibreglass skin over a foam pattern/plug just so you can then sand fair a thick primer or filler until it touches the firm skin here and there. Then add further primers etc.
If you just have the soft foam underneath then it becomes difficult to sand any paint or filler as if you sand to touch the foam then it digs a hole in it!
Won't a few brushed on coats of Pattern-Coat Primer harden the PU foam ?
That's a good tip there Fasta
my intention was to build it up with body filler, then Pattern-Coat Primer.
The polyurethane I'll be pouring into the makeshift moulds, is to get the original contours of the OEM headlight. I had to do it that way as I don't have a CNC machine, to get both headlights identacle shapes in reverse was impossible ........ I know, I tried !
As the OEM headlights are a really poor fit, I want my custom headlight covers to be a tighter fit, so they blend in better with the van panels. So in some places ( top and right hand edges ) I'll be using 5mm EasyCell75 to help the build-up. Then I intend using the procedure above, body filler for final form, then many coats of Patter-Coat Primer.
Does anybody foresee any issues glueing two different foams together using a hot glue gun ?
Here's the OEM headlight, with added DAS modelling clay to give me a vacuum formable shape >>
I'll be using PETG for vacuum forming those, Then I'll add the apertures for the quad headlights, then pour PU foam in them ...... that's the general idea anyway.
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Expanding foam for mould, solid enough ?
TURK
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11 Years Ago
It works ok, but I wouldn't recommend it. It collapses lots, so you end up having to spend hours...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo I was afraid somebody would say that, but not totally surprised. Is it available...
TURK
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11 Years Ago
Smooth-On are pretty global, I'd be surprised if they don't have a distributor in France or at least...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo, I did find it in the end, the company do 'Smooth-On' products in France if anyones...
TURK
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11 Years Ago
it can be done, I made new wings for my car using the spray foam. Sprayed, trimmed with a saw to...
jaffa
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11 Years Ago
That's great work jaffa ....... amazing what some people can do. Even to undertake such a task, many...
TURK
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11 Years Ago
I think I found a far better supplier in France for 'Smooth-On' stuff, than the one mentioned above....
TURK
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11 Years Ago
thanks for the comments. Expanding foam was the aerosol from building suppliers, in this case...
jaffa
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11 Years Ago
It's always a good idea to lay a fibreglass skin over a foam pattern/plug just so you can then sand...
Fasta
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11 Years Ago
It's always a good idea to lay a fibreglass skin over a foam pattern/plug just so you can then sand...
TURK
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11 Years Ago
Actual PU foam (not the aerosol stuff) is closed cell, so the pattern coat primer won't harden it at...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo for your time and expertise, very much appreciated. It makes great sense what...
TURK
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11 Years Ago
Apologies, you had mentioned that's what you were doing, I had forgotten. You might just want to...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
Hi Hanaldo, I assume the 'Tg' is the 'Heat distortion temperature' of the resin. No 'Tg'...
TURK
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11 Years Ago
In essence, the HDT rating of a resin is a pretty useless value for most users, as it is the...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
Hi Hanaldo, I hear you, and totally agree ........ but I haven't got to where I am with my...
TURK
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11 Years Ago
Absolutely agree mate, trial and error is all part of the fun! Honestly your project isn't really a...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
Thanks Hanaldo, I fully understand mate, I did read some of your posts, sounds like interesting...
TURK
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11 Years Ago
Hanaldo, Sorry for the late reply. Just wanted to say that I have used expanding foam to make a...
Zedok
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11 Years Ago
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