learn composites in three easy steps, Race GSXR 400 build (slow)


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Haha, they pretty much do supply that sort of service!

Liquid would be a nono around your resin plus with the bags no being too expensive its a case of re doing it.

I'm VERY lucky in that I live only a few miles away from EC so if I need help I call in, Matt and Paul should have an award for their customer service its above and beyond.

I took my 5th attempt up and Paul sorted my leak out!

turns out I'm deaf from playing the drums in my youth, I cannot hear the leaks!!

Paul took about 3 minutes to find a micro hole, he could hear it I could not.

I'm still learning and familiarization is 50% of the job, the more you work with something the easier it becomes.

Ive now made the part and will post it up when I've time to upload the pictures, looks great!!!😊  
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I feel you...

Strange no one has come up with some tricks to find those leaks.
How about filling it with air instead of vacuum and put it under water? like you do with bicycle tyres.
You see where the bubles come and there you have the leak.
Or maybe the other way around with some colored liquid, put the piece under that liquid and see where the liquid is pulled.

Or maybe EC could provide a professional home service where they respond to your breakdown call, come to your house and helps you find the leak
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Haha,

I was in a dark place.

If you want to make parts using composites then you will have to allow for major failures BUT also tiny soul destroying problems.

I'm lucky that I seem able to produce good usable patterns and have not had too many problems with my mould, I just don't get on with pulling a vacuum.

First go on my nosecone I bag taped the front of the mould but had a micro vac leak, I re did the bag and had another micro leak so I decided to bag the whole thing, again micro leak that actually got worse so I used my last bag and tap to still not get a vacuum.

No idea, ive duct taped the edges and covered the back to stop any punctures but still leaks, I shall get more bag and tape tomorrow and try again.
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I feel your pain brotha lol
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99 Problems and a vac leak is one
 If you having vac problems I feel bad for you son
 I got 99 problems and a vac leak is one
 Hit me.

If there's one thing in life in sure of its that I hate vacuum bags and they hate me!

Rant over, just going to sit a dark room listening to aphex twin until I find normality returns.
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Awesome job Chris, keep it up! 
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The result is still better than a scotch pad with 800grid moulds.
So parts are coming out of the mould perfectly (but not with the highgloss you would expect from grid 3000 moulds) 
But I dont care because I mostly sand them with a 320-400 before clear...

So perfect results out of the gun without spending to much time on the mould (the mould is perfect without any errors, but just not at a high gloss stage)

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That's interesting leaving the mould keyed.

I think as I how some experience of working with auto paint I'm looking to get the part perfectly finished so I can then simply scotch pad and clear coat,

I want to do as little work to the finished part as possible.

I will certainly have a look at your method of working, got a small infill to make so I shall try it straight off the grit.




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thanks for all the great images once again! 
To add a little remark about the polishing of the mould, here is something I've found out...
I've stopped polishing my mould till a high gloss. It's always nice to get a super shinny part popping out of you mould but I've found out 
either way I have to sand the part after demoulding to prepare it for clearcoat...So I'm happy enough with a 800 grid sanded mould instead of a high gloss mould
for my parts Smile

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Thanks guys, I'm new to this so still learning, glad you like the stuff so far.

I had set up to do the nosecone over the weekend but I decided to put some extra polishing time in to the mould first.

I will need to cut the CF in order to fit the mould so I will post up all the cuts as fitted and maybe some of the more experienced on the forum and give their views on the orientation of cloth before I commit.
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