Are prepregs from different suppliers cross-compatible?


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I am researching the most economical way for us to source carbon fiber pre-preg for our prototyping shop. I was wondering if there are any cross-compatibility issues I need to be aware of when it comes to laminating prepregs from multiple suppliers. Specifically, I want to cure UF3325 TCR™ RESIN from Composite Envisions with Easy Composites' XPreg XC110 Resin. Is there an easy way to tell if these epoxies are compatible?

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Hanaldo - 9/6/2018 3:43:27 AM
Not all epoxies are the same and they dont all play nicely together. Before the X-Preg system, I tested co-curing several brands of pre-preg together in an attempt to find a unidirectional material I could use with EasyPreg. Not one of them worked. They all cured fine, but they all delaminated from each other. You could peel the various brands apart like they had release film between them.

There's no hard and fast rule for this sort of thing, but it is always safer to assume that they will not be compatible and do some tests. I highly doubt the manufacturers will know what other systems theirs may be compatible with, theres just too many variables to know that - the reply will always be "we dont know, you'll need to test it yourself". You may get lucky and find a combination that works, but nobody is going to be able to tell you for sure - you need to test it all yourself and be comfortable with the results you get.

You learn something new every day :-) I can only base my comments on my own experiences and agree with you that testing is the only way to find out. We need to ask the OP why he needs to mix epoxies? Probably best not to as even testing, unless under long term laboratory conditions, will tell you the actual bond strength and longevity of the bond. My mix was on a non critical car interior panel.  

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Steve Broad - 9/6/2018 8:20:15 AM
Hanaldo - 9/6/2018 3:43:27 AM
Not all epoxies are the same and they dont all play nicely together. Before the X-Preg system, I tested co-curing several brands of pre-preg together in an attempt to find a unidirectional material I could use with EasyPreg. Not one of them worked. They all cured fine, but they all delaminated from each other. You could peel the various brands apart like they had release film between them.

There's no hard and fast rule for this sort of thing, but it is always safer to assume that they will not be compatible and do some tests. I highly doubt the manufacturers will know what other systems theirs may be compatible with, theres just too many variables to know that - the reply will always be "we dont know, you'll need to test it yourself". You may get lucky and find a combination that works, but nobody is going to be able to tell you for sure - you need to test it all yourself and be comfortable with the results you get.

You learn something new every day :-) I can only base my comments on my own experiences and agree with you that testing is the only way to find out. We need to ask the OP why he needs to mix epoxies? Probably best not to as even testing, unless under long term laboratory conditions, will tell you the actual bond strength and longevity of the bond. My mix was on a non critical car interior panel.  

The reason I'm looking into mixing epoxies is just for the sake of buying the cheapest materials, which in my case means buying prepreg from multiple suppliers. I wasn't sure if it was generally understood that all (or most) prepreg epoxies were cross-compatible. However, since it seems like this is something that could work, but you have to be careful about, I will probably end up listening to the advice of the users on this thread and keep it as simple as possible.

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