Aprilia MXV 450 : Motocross full carbon project completed.


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After 1 year, many hours of work, 16 moulds, some carbon parts born for scrap, some of them with very short riding life, some sticking conditions from moulds to parts and vise versa, I finished my motocross carbon project!

From plastic:
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/838f6136-3f83-44aa-8814-1489.jpg


To carbon:
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/65e5ac0e-1de4-4f78-be22-0c27.jpg


The loss of weight was not the main issue, the main goal of project was to make the rear fender stop cracking while riding in heavy mud and specially with supsension bottoming on bigger jumps. In muddy conditions the rear fender was bound to broke damaging also the rear side panels.
Making just the rear fender in carbon didn't help very much the situation. Final solution achieved by making the three seperate plastic parts (rear mudgard and the two side panels) just in one piece. A three piece mould was needed for this purpose:
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/5b26b33a-5f52-4f54-a93e-c6dd.jpg

Unfortunately the first mould produced a slightly wrong dimensioned part (with a lot of aesthetic problems also). The one piece tail could not fit correctly in the subframe. Both mould and part go straight to trash. Starting from scratch the mould, this time the 3 plastic parts were tighten in the subframe and the mould was produced with all of them sitting in the right position.
The mk.1 part was good enough but not perfect. it last a lot of motocross riding hours but failed a little bit in very heavy mud. It was the time for mk.2 rear fender, this time more stiffer and 100 grams more heavier than mk.1.
Mk.2 turned to be perfect and very good looking.
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/e35f5d8f-9a3e-4361-bfd8-ff57.jpg  
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/a2b3873c-8d40-44d9-af11-bfa9.jpg


http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/2824a3ff-e2b4-470b-9d82-51a9.jpg


http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/60f9e3e7-4673-44f2-8c78-a019.jpg


http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/fd9ed53b-a57e-47f5-bab5-1d5a.jpg


It is tested in the mudiest conditions with success!

The fever of carbon modification was all over me and the rest of the parts were mend to be carbon also....
Edited 9 Years Ago by Izo78
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I am back with a new mould for the subframe of Aprilia MXV, easier to work with especially during sealing the vacuum bag and with  provision for extra material in the mounting points. Also it is made with epoxy gelcoat backed up with vinyl ester resin. I am really satisfied with the first piece that came from this mould. I followed the advise that I read here for giving epoxy the chance to flow with more ease downwards than just crossing the mould, by making a barrier before the suction hose in order to stop the flow going to the catch pot, wetting the fiber layer stack completely. I am really thankful for this advice. So this resulted with a carbon thickness in the mounting points of more than 15 mm and with no surface voids, making it safe to trim and level the joints with no risk of coming to thin and weak. Final weight is 1050 gr, which is -370 gr less  than the aluminium version. 
Making the split mould :


Laying down the stack, in the mounting points I lost counting, over 20 layers for sure :

The result :





So this is the Mk.3 version of subframe, which is similar to Mk.2 (produced with the previous version of mould), but it is easier to produce and giving almost no risk on scrapping the final piece. Really happy with the result.
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     How it's going.
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                 please make some pics! always nice to see.
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                         Well done mate, really looks nice :)
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     nice work!!
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