Mould with minimal damage to original part/plug


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No, you'll possibly be alright. Always test prior to using it on your parts though. There are way more 2k paints that are incompatible with ester based resins than there are ones that are compatabile. 

Personally, I wouldn't use automotive products. I know plenty of people on here do, so I know there are some that work, but I have attempted it 6 times with different 2k automotive paints, and each time resulted in failure. I don't do it any more. You could have more luck with 2k marine products, but they are more expensive and then you might as well go with Duratec anyway. Duratec is made for the job and will work every time. Otherwise, PVA is guaranteed success, it just requires a little bit of post-finishing work. 
Edited 10 Years Ago by Hanaldo
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Are you saying 2k won't work either?

ive just spent the last week redoing the panels in 2k.
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Yeh that's a given! Single pack paints are a no no, I don't even risk 2k automotive paints any more. Duratec or PVA. 
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Dravis (08/04/2015)
I have never had any problems with the original paint on painted plastic bike parts or car parts, when using careful waxing and epoxy gelcoat..
maybe I will get problems showing up when I start using the Unimould system. Whistling

Best try on an old part first ..


One things for sure the uni system hates rattle can paint, i know i spent 2 hours scraping the paint off the mould! D'oh! 
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Well there's no styrene in epoxy, so it doesn't attack the paint. 

Problem with epoxy tools is they aren't UV stable, and they don't polish to the same high level of gloss that the ester-based tooling systems can. They also are unlikely to take as much heat as a vinyl tool. 
Edited 10 Years Ago by Hanaldo
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I haven't been using the unimould system - not available in Aus. But i have been using unwaxed vinylester tooling gelcoat - Do you think its worthy making the switch to an epoxy gelcoat?
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I have never had any problems with the original paint on painted plastic bike parts or car parts, when using careful waxing and epoxy gelcoat..
maybe I will get problems showing up when I start using the Unimould system. Whistling

Best try on an old part first ..

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Cool i'll start going that route from now one. Thanks for your help Hanaldo
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Yeh, I would include that as a release issue. When using semi-perm release systems, you need to make sure that your paint is compatible with your gelcoat, which a lot aren't. 

For that reason, unless I have sprayed a plug with the surfacing system that I know is compatible with my gelcoat, I only use PVA on plugs. Forget the wax, just spray 4-5 coats of PVA onto the plug and you won't have compatability or release issues. 
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Release isn't an issue though. It's more the tooling gelcoat ruining the clear coat/paint on the original part that i'm having issues with? I'm using a chemical release agent, would the old wax/PVA combo be more suitable?
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