Mould with minimal damage to original part/plug


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Hi all,

I want to make a mould of an original car part that would be expensive to replace if I damaged it. Is there any way around this? I've tried using 3m 1080 vinyl wrap in the past on cheaper parts from the same car but that didn't protect the original part at all.

What methods has everyone used to minimise damage to the original part they're making moulds of?
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A well thought out mould design and proper release system. None of my plugs ever get damaged because I spend the time making sure the mould design will release and the release system is 110%.
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Release isn't an issue though. It's more the tooling gelcoat ruining the clear coat/paint on the original part that i'm having issues with? I'm using a chemical release agent, would the old wax/PVA combo be more suitable?
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Yeh, I would include that as a release issue. When using semi-perm release systems, you need to make sure that your paint is compatible with your gelcoat, which a lot aren't. 

For that reason, unless I have sprayed a plug with the surfacing system that I know is compatible with my gelcoat, I only use PVA on plugs. Forget the wax, just spray 4-5 coats of PVA onto the plug and you won't have compatability or release issues. 
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Cool i'll start going that route from now one. Thanks for your help Hanaldo
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I have never had any problems with the original paint on painted plastic bike parts or car parts, when using careful waxing and epoxy gelcoat..
maybe I will get problems showing up when I start using the Unimould system. Whistling

Best try on an old part first ..

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I haven't been using the unimould system - not available in Aus. But i have been using unwaxed vinylester tooling gelcoat - Do you think its worthy making the switch to an epoxy gelcoat?
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Well there's no styrene in epoxy, so it doesn't attack the paint. 

Problem with epoxy tools is they aren't UV stable, and they don't polish to the same high level of gloss that the ester-based tooling systems can. They also are unlikely to take as much heat as a vinyl tool. 
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Dravis (08/04/2015)
I have never had any problems with the original paint on painted plastic bike parts or car parts, when using careful waxing and epoxy gelcoat..
maybe I will get problems showing up when I start using the Unimould system. Whistling

Best try on an old part first ..


One things for sure the uni system hates rattle can paint, i know i spent 2 hours scraping the paint off the mould! D'oh! 
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Yeh that's a given! Single pack paints are a no no, I don't even risk 2k automotive paints any more. Duratec or PVA. 
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