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Use different gelcoat for other half of mould?
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Timellis
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I am having finish issues on my pattern and mould when using Unimold gelcoat. The first time the part was finished in clear lacquer form Halfords. The part was easy leased and then waxed 8 times. When de-moulded the finish on the part had alligatored leaving a poor quality mould. The second time had 2k lacquer finish, again easy lease and wax with the same result.
My question is can I use your epoxy tooling gelcoat for this half of my mould? (the first half has been repaired extensively from alligatoring) - I am looking at the "green stuff" you have. Also, what finish do you suggest for my part?
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So infusion or wet-lay?
Is using PVA out of the question?
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I am going to wet lay initially and try infusion at a later date. If I don't have the time to wait for 2k to fully cure what finish for the plug would you suggest. PVA is ok as the final product will be lacquered, blocked and polished.
I believe I have followed all the Unimold instructions correctly - I have made a mould with the green gelcoat and epoxy clay kit in the past with no issues.
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If time is the issue and surface finish isn't critical then PVA as Hanaldo suggests. It will need to be spray applied. That way you can apply several coats creating a decent barrier layer between the plug and gelcoat.
Epoxy Mould kits can be useful especially if working in a home environment as they dont give off any nasty fumes. The epoxy won't attack the plug like polyesters can but still generate heat during curing. Depending on what the plug is made from this heat can be sufficiently high to deform the plug. The same goes for polyester. Plastic trim parts for example or thin wood like some guitars. It's an expensive way to create larger moulds though compared to polyesters.
In my opinion the less finishing work you have to do on the part the better. When sanding/flatting CF you always run the risk of sanding through the thin layer of resin into the cloth. Once that happens cosmetically the part is ruined.
I prefer to spend the time on the plug/mould. There is something very satisfying about pulling a part from a mould that requires no more than a quick buff. It is also much more cost effective on multiple runs.
Good luck with the project guitars are not easy things to make from composites especially acoustics.
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Use different gelcoat for other half of mould?
Timellis
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11 Years Ago
*edit* sorry, misread your post. I would recommend using PVA instead of the semi-perms.
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
The problems sound to be in the preparation of the plug rather than the release agent or the Uni...
wozza
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11 Years Ago
So what finish do you suggest? I now have to sand and prep my plug again and need to apply a finish....
Timellis
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]Timellis (03/11/2014)[/b][hr]So what finish do you suggest? I now have to sand and prep my...
wozza
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11 Years Ago
its a guitar body - or rather the top of the body (the lower part is the other half of the mould) I...
Timellis
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11 Years Ago
So infusion or wet-lay? Is using PVA out of the question?
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
I am going to wet lay initially and try infusion at a later date. If I don't have the time to wait...
Timellis
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11 Years Ago
If time is the issue and surface finish isn't critical then PVA as Hanaldo suggests. It will need to...
wozza
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11 Years Ago
I have to agree with Warren here. PVA seems the best way to go as time is critical in your case. In...
Warren (Staff)
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11 Years Ago
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