Who can show and give lesson for pre-pregs at god price?


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thanxs but i watched all videos already in real can be total different thing..
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Here is a video in spanish with bits and pieces of OOA prepreg layups. They even use VTF261 too. 

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agree and on pre pregs you can connect hard angles by putting extra piece of material on top and by heating and resin curing and flowing it gonna weld nicely connections?
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TomDesign (30/08/2013)
also what are advantages and disadvantages between - pre preg and infusion?


My good friend who made my moulds does a lot of infusion work too... He only does infusion for larger parts and for my type of work he has said it is not a guaranteed route to perfect parts and to get really good cosmetic parts you need to gel the surface and understand what you are doing really well... He has made my moulds suitable for infusion as well as pre-preg but has said to use pre-preg over infusion for most of my work.. Yours may be different but I trust him totally and he doesnt sell me parts or materials so has nothing to gain with his advice. Pre-preg parts are a little lighter and stronger if you have the same number of layers too.. Cost wise if you use MTI hose and Epoxy resins there is not a huge difference when you look at the finished products cost to make... Infusion takes longer to set up and has more consumable materials as well as catch pots and hose routing ect. Pre-preg is quite simple and the only time consuming part is de-bulking the carbon but if you have a multiple part mould you can de-bulk each section as you lay up the next... You can re-use those bags usually and the release film and breather too as you are not curing anything just pulling it down.  I have seen several parts done with infusion that look amazing and then again I have seen as many that look awful and need a lot of work to correct or have to be thrown away.

I prefer pre-preg to be honest or normal wet lay and vacuum bagging.

Here is a wet lay part just out of the mould and rough trimmed with no lacquer or polishing done.. I laid this up last night. I just gel coated the simple mould (no flanges as it was only supposed to be for a single set and I was not worried about grinding the edges) left it to go off to a light tack and laid it up using general purpose polyester resins. I spent no more than an hour making this part...If I infused it with a better mould it would have been a lot longer and cost more to produce. 




So I would get used to wet lay and using a vacuum bag ect and the consumables that go with it as it is the same as you would use with pre-preg too... It lets you understand more about how resin flows ect and should make it easier to do pre-preg as you get more used to it all... The guy who helped me said of my first few parts the quality was what he would have expected from someone with 2 to 3 years experience.. I think knowing the basics has helped me and doing it ALL myself has too... It may have been harder work but there is nothing like getting your hands dirty doing a job over watching videos and looking at others doing it as it is a hands on job and without making mistakes you do not learn from them too.... 
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also what are advantages and disadvantages between - pre preg and infusion?
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ok thanxs that would help a lot as i only saw something on youtube but that not help.
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Use Optimould for your tooling... You also need a tooling gel coat.. 

I will show you what I have done for my ovens when I am using them again... You will need to post cure the moulds. Start at 40 degrees C for a couple of hours and work up to 60 for about 6 hours then up to 80 degrees c for another 6 hours then up to 100 degrees C for 6 to 8 hours. 

Use a chemical mould cleaner then sealer with about 4 to 6 coats of sealer and finally chemical release with another 4 to 6 coats. 

I have a part to make soon so I will get some photos of the oven controller. 
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Just give it a shot. See what happens. Do a simple part first.
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and problem that no one around me in 1000 km do anything carbon that is nice.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ADVISE ONLY NEED TO START FROM SOMEWHERE. SO FROM WHAT MATERIAL IS YOUR MOLDS? also in what temperature it cures? any images of owen so i can have an idea to build as i thought to use piccas owen but its only 1metres on 50cm i need one and good. that be like 2 metres long 50cm high and 1 metre width. 
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