2 Part Moulding - Questions


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Jack.Strong
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Hi Fred,

Why does a silicone mould have to be under high pressure ? Obviously the higher the better, squeezes out resin etc. But to get a flat surface on both sites could i not just clamp a silicone mould. Does silicone stick to curing polyester resin ?

Update: Well Ive made the mould now. Was very annoying as I broke the plug taking it out. It has made me question the radius so I think i will be getting some epoxy filler.



Next step is buying the supplies.

Is there anyway to determine the theoretical thickness of each cloth layer, once its been wetted ?  
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Jack.Strong (04/01/2013)
Update: Back to work now so can work on the mould. Using the easycomposites mould starter kit wax and pva release worked well.


  • Any recommendations for a 2 part silicon product I can use ? I intend to heat the curing part so the silicon expands etc.
  • The layup will be fibreglass weave for now, bit cheaper. I have been thinking 3 layers: 100g twill tweave sandwiched by a heavier weave. This because I have sharp angles and the part isnt structurally too important. Are there any calculations to find thickness of layup ?
I need to know layup thickness now because I have to take that into account for the 2nd part of the 2 part mould.

Thanks in advance


Hi Jack
Does that sound wrong some how? Funny!
Your mold came out real nice. Just a thought. Bladder molding and silicon expanding cores give off a lot of pressure so your mold would have to be very strong, just keep that in mind. The only molding of that type that I have seen were two matched metal molds.
Others on this site can probably add more information and advice to help you along.
Fred
 
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Update: Back to work now so can work on the mould. Using the easycomposites mould starter kit wax and pva release worked well.



I have now sanded the flanges back a bit. Next step is to make a mould off the other side.

I have decided  to attempt bladder moulding. So am looking into making a male silicon plug moulding, once the next part of the mould is done.
  • Any recommendations for a 2 part silicon product I can use ? I intend to heat the curing part so the silicon expands etc.
  • The layup will be fibreglass weave for now, bit cheaper. I have been thinking 3 layers: 100g twill tweave sandwiched by a heavier weave. This because I have sharp angles and the part isnt structurally too important. Are there any calculations to find thickness of layup ?
I need to know layup thickness now because I have to take that into account for the 2nd part of the 2 part mould.

Thanks in advance
Jack.Strong
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Well the mould making kit provided just enough putty for the job. Pretty happy with the result:


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Got it Smile 
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I have the same problem in making a fuel tank. The join needs reinforcement but there is no "open" end to add fibre tape to the join on the inside.  I don't want to hijack this thread but I guess it's the same issue.  This is the tank in plastic.

http://www.adventure-spec.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/400x400/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/d/advtankadv-2_1.jpg
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the answer is to make one side of the mould with flange... then put a 3-6mm (depending on intended part thickness) layer of wax over the flange (your step diagram 2) and take the other side of the mould.

Then when you pull the 2 parts they can sit together correctly?
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quite a few solvants will dissolve plasticine so just wipe over the plug to clean it.

Its a bit late now but you could have used sign board to do the flanges easier than the plasticine, then just use plasticine for the joins/curves.
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Anyway could you please draw a diagram, or show photos of it ? bit puzzled by your wording
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you make the 2 molds.
you fiberglass each, but one has fiber up to the edge, the other has fiber longher. If you do like this, when you close molds (before cure them), the fiberglass of the 2 pieces join together 
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