OV301 Curing Oven - Setting the PID manually?


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Hi!

I am setting up the OV301 curing oven but are having some problems with finding a satisfying ramp and cure reading on my termometer.
The manual provides instruction for doing a PID autotune, but is it possible to set the values manual? 
Also do i need to preform the autotune before each curing cycle? 

Thanks in advance!

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You can go deeper into the settings and change more than is shown in the standard manual. However you will need to take care when doing this.  As such I have enclosed a link to the PID manufacturers manual which you should try and work from.

PID Controller Manual.

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Warren (Staff) - 10/17/2019 11:03:36 AM
You can go deeper into the settings and change more than is shown in the standard manual. However you will need to take care when doing this.  As such I have enclosed a link to the PID manufacturers manual which you should try and work from.

PID Controller Manual.

Thanks very much!

The PID autotune is working good now and i am very happy with the curve. 

But I have a question about the temperature readings I am getting. I have three termometers. The first termometer is placed on the bottom to the far right. The second one in the middle, both in height and width. and the third in the upper left corner.
As the temperature increase the greater the temperature difference become in the oven.  There is a 8 degrees celsius difference between the top left and the bottom right. Is this reading normal or is there a way to get a more evenly distributed temperature?

Regards.

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Helmut - 10/21/2019 8:54:30 AM
Warren (Staff) - 10/17/2019 11:03:36 AM
You can go deeper into the settings and change more than is shown in the standard manual. However you will need to take care when doing this.  As such I have enclosed a link to the PID manufacturers manual which you should try and work from.

PID Controller Manual.

Thanks very much!

The PID autotune is working good now and i am very happy with the curve. 

But I have a question about the temperature readings I am getting. I have three termometers. The first termometer is placed on the bottom to the far right. The second one in the middle, both in height and width. and the third in the upper left corner.
As the temperature increase the greater the temperature difference become in the oven.  There is a 8 degrees celsius difference between the top left and the bottom right. Is this reading normal or is there a way to get a more evenly distributed temperature?

Regards.

This is pretty much them same as with ours. It works well enough for most things, but i wouldn't call it "precision curing oven" myself. Do you have a second tray in it? This makes it quite a bit worse...

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Lester Populaire - 10/21/2019 10:32:21 AM
Helmut - 10/21/2019 8:54:30 AM
Warren (Staff) - 10/17/2019 11:03:36 AM
You can go deeper into the settings and change more than is shown in the standard manual. However you will need to take care when doing this.  As such I have enclosed a link to the PID manufacturers manual which you should try and work from.

PID Controller Manual.

Thanks very much!

The PID autotune is working good now and i am very happy with the curve. 

But I have a question about the temperature readings I am getting. I have three termometers. The first termometer is placed on the bottom to the far right. The second one in the middle, both in height and width. and the third in the upper left corner.
As the temperature increase the greater the temperature difference become in the oven.  There is a 8 degrees celsius difference between the top left and the bottom right. Is this reading normal or is there a way to get a more evenly distributed temperature?

Regards.

This is pretty much them same as with ours. It works well enough for most things, but i wouldn't call it "precision curing oven" myself. Do you have a second tray in it? This makes it quite a bit worse...
During this test i had both shelves in. But i will re do a second test now with one shelf removed. Thanks for the tips!

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Hi Helmut.

Are you having any specific process issues? If so please could you detail your process and we will try to assist you further.

We have guided several customers through getting the ovens professionally calibrated and much of the advice given to them may be of use to you. I have summarized it here.

It is firstly important to understand the operation of the oven. Air is pulled into the fan through the grill in the middle of the back panel, this air is then heated and blown out along the back in the top and bottom corners. I suspect your sensors are positioned in these hot air outlets, hence the high temperatures. We have seen results like yours before and a change in measurement technique and equipment has given far better and more real world performance figures.

What we would expect to see is the distribution getting wider as the temperature increases during ramp up due to the hot air being quickly introduced, but then unlike yours, we would then expect the lines to close back up together to our quoted tolerance after a few minutes whilst soaking at set point as the heating output backs off.

We find when testing the distribution on the oven we need to either use a very small, high response speed thermocouples (<2mm round tip with no body similar to this https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/thermocouples/3630250/) or use a very large thermal mass to damp out these fluctuations.

We found when developing the oven, distributing multiple copies of the same tool throughout the oven, each with a in mould thermocouple, the distribution is even and representative of the true performance of the oven.

As general advice, we recommend always positioning any parts being cured forward on the shelves towards the doors to minimise their effect on airflow and the temperature distribution. We also recommend positioning parts vertically in the middle and never placing parts directly on the base of the oven without a shelf to ensure a reliable cure.

Hopefully this helps.



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