one layer of 650g fabric vs 3 layers of 200g


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i have a fairly flat part, not many edges or corners.
I was wondering if i can use one layer of 650g carbon fibre fabric instead of my usual 3x 200g fabrics? will the thickness be pretty much the same? 
is there anything else i should consider?

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From an ease of use point of view, it's always better to use a single heavy fabric rather than several lighter ones

Bear in mind, though, that most 'heavyweight' fabrics will have larger and less neat weave patterns, so might not deliver the cosmetics you're looking for if used as a surface layer. You'd usually look to use the lighter weight fabrics for your visible surface backed up by a single layer of a heavier nature.


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Hi guys, so I infused two parts, I used 650g on one part and 3x 200g on the other part. Both were infused on the same day, same temperature and demoulded at the same time, however the 650g part it came out extremely flexible almost like I could fold it up! The 3x 200g part is nice and solid

Am I missing something? Why did the 650g part come out so flexible
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More layers of a lighter fabric will always be stiffer, due to the relationship of the fibres within the laminate, in the same way that a cored sandwich panel works. A single layer of 650g is able to stretch as much as the fibre will allow because there is nothing preventing it from doing so, it is only the single fibres in each direction that experience tensile and compression forces.

3 layers of 200g, whilst being the same thickness as the 650g, will be stiffer because it has a top layer and a bottom layer that must move relative to each other and a neutral layer in the middle that holds them together and doesn't allow that relative movement. 

Then you have other factors like the fact lighter weight 200g fibres are smaller and so have less 'kink' at the weave intersections where the fibres pass over and under each other, meaning the fibres are flatter and more in line. A 650g being a thicker fibre has more kink, and hence is not as flat. Under tensile load, these kinks in the fibre try to straighten out and allow movement in the fibres. 

Composite reinforcements work much better in layers. The heavier weight fabrics are intended to bulk out laminates where you would otherwise have to do many layers, using more material and taking more time. For the most part, they are only really beneficial from a cost perspective.
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Hanaldo - 10/14/2019 10:40:24 PM
More layers of a lighter fabric will always be stiffer, due to the relationship of the fibres within the laminate, in the same way that a cored sandwich panel works. A single layer of 650g is able to stretch as much as the fibre will allow because there is nothing preventing it from doing so, it is only the single fibres in each direction that experience tensile and compression forces.

3 layers of 200g, whilst being the same thickness as the 650g, will be stiffer because it has a top layer and a bottom layer that must move relative to each other and a neutral layer in the middle that holds them together and doesn't allow that relative movement. 

Then you have other factors like the fact lighter weight 200g fibres are smaller and so have less 'kink' at the weave intersections where the fibres pass over and under each other, meaning the fibres are flatter and more in line. A 650g being a thicker fibre has more kink, and hence is not as flat. Under tensile load, these kinks in the fibre try to straighten out and allow movement in the fibres. 

Composite reinforcements work much better in layers. The heavier weight fabrics are intended to bulk out laminates where you would otherwise have to do many layers, using more material and taking more time. For the most part, they are only really beneficial from a cost perspective.

thank you for the detailed reply, makies alot of sense now. 

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