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Hello all, 

I am interested in designing my own car and about 3 weeks ago, I decided to start learning basic designs on Fusion 360 simply because it cost zero dollars. Given that I had never designed anything before using any computer design programs, I would like you to rate for me this car that I designed. Do not feel bad pointing mistakes because that is how I learn the best. Your genuine criticisms are highly encouraged. 
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Nothing wrong with that mate! Having taught myself to use Fusion 360 as well, I know how complex a drawing that is, so nice work. 
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Hanaldo - 1/26/2018 5:57:49 AM
Nothing wrong with that mate! Having taught myself to use Fusion 360 as well, I know how complex a drawing that is, so nice work. 

Yes, fusion is a great intro program. I am still learning it and the best way to learn these days is to be self-taught because you actually get to do things. 

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I think youve done a sterling job as a first go at cad. Ive been using catia for over 17 years now and i wouldnt call myself a top designer. The automotive guys who do surfacing on bodypanels can spend months getting it right.
Keep practicing and remember if you are wanting to make this in composites think about how you will make it as the cost and complexity of tooling can easily kill a project.
Good luck


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Looking good so far!


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Jossure - 1/27/2018 6:54:58 PM
Hanaldo - 1/26/2018 5:57:49 AM
Nothing wrong with that mate! Having taught myself to use Fusion 360 as well, I know how complex a drawing that is, so nice work. 

Yes, fusion is a great intro program. I am still learning it and the best way to learn these days is to be self-taught because you actually get to do things. 


scottracing - 1/27/2018 8:54:38 PM
I think youve done a sterling job as a first go at cad. Ive been using catia for over 17 years now and i wouldnt call myself a top designer. The automotive guys who do surfacing on bodypanels can spend months getting it right.
Keep practicing and remember if you are wanting to make this in composites think about how you will make it as the cost and complexity of tooling can easily kill a project.
Good luck


Thank you very much Scottracing. I do agree with you on tooling and cost. Is there a way out there to cut the cost? People I have contacted on building a prototype someday are talking of over $200K for a single prototype. Very discouraging but I am still in research stage. I know one can research forever and get lost in the research and with that said, I do not want to spend a lot of time on it. If there is a way to research as I start the project I would appreciate that. Even if it is starting as a garage project. 

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if you want to build anything that looks semi  professional then the tooling costs can easily be in the 200k upwards and thats if you have a base vehicle to start from.
If you have a chassis then you can always build up wooden 2d profiles and fill them with foam and sand back and seal the bodywork to take tooling from and then produce parts. This would be a lot cheaper but would involve a lot of man hours.


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scottracing - 1/31/2018 9:10:25 AM
if you want to build anything that looks semi  professional then the tooling costs can easily be in the 200k upwards and thats if you have a base vehicle to start from.
If you have a chassis then you can always build up wooden 2d profiles and fill them with foam and sand back and seal the bodywork to take tooling from and then produce parts. This would be a lot cheaper but would involve a lot of man hours.


Thank you very much for the input. I have checked if there are videos explaining this out there but no luck. Anybody here has built a body using this method? Would you please share tips on how to do this? Scott racing I think that would for sure be a cheaper method but still we will be talking in thousands of dollars which I wont mind trying. 

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there isn't really any method, to achieve car panel sized plugs from scratch, that is cheaper that wooden framing filled with foam.
sure this could easily cost some thousands, but we are talking about a car. building one yourself usually means lifetime objective. if you are not willing to spend around 2500€ (wich would be really, really cheap) for plugs and materials for the panels, I would recommend not do it. and 2500 is my estimation of the cheapest possible way an experienced worker could do it, without buying tools, using carbon or sandwich cores, or even advanced processes.
if you want to learn something about wood/foam plug making, search yt for "easycomposites air box". just use some wood panels, instead of the harder foam, they are using.


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oekmont - 2/1/2018 7:44:25 AM
there isn't really any method, to achieve car panel sized plugs from scratch, that is cheaper that wooden framing filled with foam.
sure this could easily cost some thousands, but we are talking about a car. building one yourself usually means lifetime objective. if you are not willing to spend around 2500€ (wich would be really, really cheap) for plugs and materials for the panels, I would recommend not do it. and 2500 is my estimation of the cheapest possible way an experienced worker could do it, without buying tools, using carbon or sandwich cores, or even advanced processes.
if you want to learn something about wood/foam plug making, search yt for "easycomposites air box". just use some wood panels, instead of the harder foam, they are using.


Oekmont, Thank you very much for the idea. I am going to check them out. Yes, I know with the price of Carbon Fiber today, I am going to spend over $5000.00 on panel/body alone. I am glad there are encouraging people here like you. I am so excited to start this project. I am working on the plan and researching on tooling and where to get all the materials. I will be sharing the progress with you guys here and if there is anyone willing to give some advise, please feel free to share your knowledge/wisdom with us. 

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