Scheufler L285/6


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I am currently using Schufler L285 resin with L286 hardener.  According to the data sheets your EL2 resin has very similar properties in spite of being much cheaper.
Am I missing something or could I change to EL2 without any problems?
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It looks to me as if the EC EL2 resin is just as good and has just as good physical properties as the Scheufler L285 system.

I do not think that the price of a resin system always mirrors the quality of the product Wink



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There are many cheaper systems which come close to the L285.

> Am I missing something or could I change to EL2 without any problems?

That depends on what you want to do with it.
The main use for the L285 these days is building and repairing aircraft, and a few other uses where the price difference doesn't matter much or where rules and laws require certain approved resins. Nobody in their right mind would use it to build a boat or something similar, like a thick and heavy mould where huge amounts are required and cheaper resins will do.

Imagine you perform a structural repair somebody else's aircraft. Depending on your local legislation you will be in deep s*** if 1. you aren't allowed and qualified to perform such repairs and 2. you used a resin which isn't approved for repairs, and you tried saving 5 bucks by using another cheaper resin. Apparently that depends on where you live, in the US it seems to be perfectly fine to even use West System without post curing to build aircraft...

You always need to keep the cost of the whole project in mind. If you have several hundred $/€ of expensive non-standard carbon in your part and many man-hours of work, paying a little more for a good and proven resin doesn't make a lot of difference. There is no doubt that the L285 is a great resin to work with. It might still be cheaper to buy it in bulk and use it for everything than buying several different, cheaper resins in smaller amounts.





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I have to agree with "brainfart" to some extent...

Changing to a cheaper resin with similar properties is fine, if you are not depending on the approvals of the resins for aircraft or the like. On the issue of bulk buying, you may not save a lot of money buing a cheaper resin for the parts that needs no approval. 
Its all in the balance of costs and amounts used..
Most of my composites work is experimental, I only produce very few "copies" of the parts I make, and most are "one off specials" made for myself and friends. 
So in my case, I buy almost nothing in bulk, certainly not resins and hardeners, unless I really need it for larger projects. Especially hardeners, which certainly have a limited shelflife

So far I have tried several resin systems, and really found very little difference between them. This goes for structural strenght too, some of my parts have been built and used for structural tests, and in some cases we could not measure significant differences between identical parts made with different resin systems, case in point being a beam type part made for testing molded in Titanium fasteners.
it was made with both West systems 105, and EC EL2, giving nearly identical measurements, with maybe a slightly stronger result for the EL2

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