Epoxy clear gelcoat before vacuum infusion?


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Hi there!

I need to build a CF part wich will go in a high temp environement (inside an engine bay)

as i need the part to have a nice glossy finish, can i use the epoxy clear gel coat before vacuum infusion?

And if so, is the gel coat need to full cure, or tacky when i build the reinforcement frame before start infusion?

Kind regards,

Seb.
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I did it once with a Vinylester transparant gelcoat.
1. Mix a good amount of Vinylester
2. Brush it in the mould Horizontaly
3. wait for it to get tacky
4. add a second layer verticaly
5. wait till it gets tacky
6. lay down your CF
7. Vacuumbag it and infuse

Remark: When laying the CF on the tacky gelcoat you have to lay it down in one time, you can not easily lift up the carbon fiber without breaking the CF its pattern if you misplaced it.
              Work from the inside and work your way out.

Hope this might help you

if interested you can see how i did something similar in following video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_xmEIiGQU

Matthieu Libeert
Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports
website:
www.mat2composites.com




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Hi Seb,

The fact that you want a high temperature tollerance is what complicates this scenario. We have a couple of options for gel coating epoxy infused parts, the first is our CLear Epoxy Gel Coat (which has an HDT - Heat Distortion Temperature - of 115C) the second would be our epoxy compatible polyester gel coat (with a lower HDT at around 85C).

The usual dissadvantage to the clear epoxy gel coat is that it doesn't offer a very good level of UV protection to the parts underneath won't be a problem in your case because you're in an engine-bay away from the light. The clear epoxy gel coat is also a very hard gelcoat and can be too brittle sometimes for parts that are under a lot of stress or flex but again I don't see this being a problem in your application so I think this product would be a good choice if you don't expect the engine bay temperature to exceed 115C. If you do go with this product then make sure you apply it thinly - it will loose its clarity if applied too thick - you only need around 0.2-0.3mm (easily achieved with a light brush application).

If you decide you need higher temperarure tollerance than 115C (in which case you need to also make sure you're using a special High Temperature Epoxy Resin for the part too) then I think your only option will be to make the part first, using a high temperature resin, and then clear-coat it using a special high temperature clear coat/lacquer (which we don't sell but you should be able to source from a professional paint supplier).

I hope this helps.

Best regards, Matt

Matt Statham
Easy Composites / Carbon Mods - Technical Sales
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Hi both Matt,

thanks for this replys.

the part i will try to produce is an engine cover. original is plastic, and there is no stress on it (just a cosmetic part).

i ordered high temp epoxy resin last time, so i think this part will infuse with this resin.

I think i will try 2 parts:

1 only High temp infusion, no clear gel coat.

If result is not good, then i will try clear epoxy gel coat.

Thanks for your help (here and by e-mail)

Regards,

Seb.
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