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ARSOUILLERB26
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Hello everybody, I contact you for a few problems about a carbon kevlar tray I ve made
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My first problem is for me a real nightmare: tiny bubbles:
I eliminated a lot them by using resin infusion (but not all of them) and using bristle roller but to have a perfect finish, I don't see any other way than to varnish (if there is an other possibility please let me know)
So I would like to know how to make this perfectly, what products do you use (I didn't see them on your shop) and the application method to have a perfect gloss finish .
For my second question, I've done this tray with 2 layers of carbon kevlar and with 2 of red traced carbon ^^ in the middle but it's too flexible specially on the
flat part.
I would like to know if it's possible for a next one to make it more stiff by putting a kevlar cross in the middle of the reinforcement layers Throughout the flat part and if it will be (for just one kevlar layer) visible on the exterior of the tray?
Or if is it possible to make the tray for stiff by an other way (curing?) cheaper than to put 2 or 3 more carbon reinforcement layers.
By advance, thank you for all your answers
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Do you think it's possible it came from the mould surface? Not enough smooth which let place for air between the mould and the carbone layer?
I don't think so. If your vacuum pump has pulled all the air out of the bag any gaps (even tiny gaps due to the texture of the surface) will simply be vacuum (i.e. no air), just space into which the resin can flow.
And excuse me Matt for repeating my answer but english is not my main language (so I hope you haven't difficulties to understand me ^^) so, during my infusion, if I see any bubbles (moving for extraction), I let the both vaccum and resin line open until I don't see them any more. It doesn't matter the time it take. After I close the both clamp like normal... Is it right? (I couldn't use that technic with sonic infusion core for the next one, it's just by curiosity)
Correct, you can keep the whole 'cycle' running for as long as you want to flush it through. We'd always hope to not need to do much of this because it wastes resin but if it helps to troubleshoot the cause of your problem then it's worth doing. Remember to close the resin feed line off first in this situation and let the bag pull down a bit before clamping off the vac line, otherwise you will have too much resin in the laminate.
I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work with Soric either.
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removing/stopping defects and strengthen/reinforcement of a part
ARSOUILLERB26
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13 Years Ago
strange you have pin holes/bubbles in your surface. With infusion, if done correctly you should...
Warren
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13 Years Ago
Salut Arsouille, First, nice idea, I'm jealous, really :w00t: I noticed you said "I eliminated a...
Joe
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13 Years Ago
Yeah I think we need a little more info on how your making it to work out what going wrong... you...
MAVERICK
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13 Years Ago
hello First, thank you for your answers I will try to be as accurate as possible. @warren...
ARSOUILLERB26
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13 Years Ago
If your only getting -0.8 bar you are not at full vac, follow the EC instructions/video! ABSOLUTE...
Kevin-Lee
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13 Years Ago
Hi, The full carbon one looks nice too... Thats great. And thx Kevin for additional informations...
Joe
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13 Years Ago
as said you need FULL vacuum on the guage. rather than clamping the feed as the resin gets to...
Warren
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13 Years Ago
Hi Arsouille, I think the advice you've received from our forum members in this thread is exactly...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
the tray is something that could go with my dinner plates once i do another batch!! :w00t:...
Warren
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13 Years Ago
hi Firstly thank you very much for all your helpful answers !! For the carbon tray, I pulled...
ARSOUILLERB26
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13 Years Ago
Go see: https://www.easycomposites.co.uk/resin-infusion-starter-kit#video 04:45. Step 8. Add an...
Kevin-Lee
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13 Years Ago
The bubbles have to be coming from somewhere. Have you done the leak drop test properly? perhaps for...
Warren
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13 Years Ago
Okay thank you, :) I gonna try an other infusion for applying all yours advices soon... blue...
ARSOUILLERB26
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13 Years Ago
what kevin means is which side of your tray is the "shiney" side. Just take it slow and steady.
Warren
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13 Years Ago
Hi, Arsouille. Well I think i'll be jealous again then. Good luck for your project.
Joe
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13 Years Ago
Hi kevin, the peel ply side is the inferior, the glossy superior side is the gel coat side ;)...
ARSOUILLERB26
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13 Years Ago
Muhaha it looks awesome, especially in the sun. With the summer coming, it will definitely be a...
Joe
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13 Years Ago
Hi Arsouille, That really is getting to be a very high quality looking product. I think yours are...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
Isn't it air from the resin? Maybe a "cold" resin from which bubbles would have difficulties to flow...
Joe
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13 Years Ago
Id say try degassing the resin under vacuum before infusing it to elimate the possibility of it...
Warren
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13 Years Ago
Looks Fantastic mate! ...just those last few bubbles to sort out and I think you could have it...
Kevin-Lee
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13 Years Ago
Hey Joe, I think I'm not the only frenchy here, isn't it? :) When you want to share an "apéro"...
ARSOUILLERB26
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13 Years Ago
[quote] Do you think it's possible it came from the mould surface? Not enough smooth which let...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
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