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Jess8bit
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Hi guys,
Do you take any particular precaution when you trim your part with your Dremel ? How do you protect the surface from scratches that may occur during the trimming ?
I've had this problem : the srface was nice after demolding. After triiming the part, I've jad the bad surprise of observing many scratches and holes in the surface. My assumption is that I made the scratches myself simply by holding the part with my hand (with gloves on) and handling it durng the process (maybe because of carbone dust ?).
Hence the question. I'm thinking about covering the surface with a plastic film hold by masking tape all around the part edges.
What do you think ?
thank you !!
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Ok so this time I've added sprayed GC50 gel coat, and waited for 2 days before demolding (no post cure though), and here's the result, once demolding :
I'm happy coz' I don't have the surface problems I had before (even after trimming the part)
So I'll wait for 48hrs before demoding, from now.
Yet, if you look well, I have what looks like air bubbles stuck close to the cloth. Not many, but still. What could I do to really get rid of them ? During the infusion, I wait a "long" time before closing the vacuum line (to evacuate the air contaminated resin). By "long" I mean I wait until the resin reaches the catch pot and that some of it flow into. I clamp the vac line but I can still see some bubbles coming from the output of infusing part, inside the hose.
Should I degas the resin before starting the infusion ?
Also I suspect the Big vac pump draw the resin to fast ? Or is it irrelevant ?
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precaution when trimming your part ?
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Unless dremel hit the surface of the item I don't see any reasonhow just holding the piece the...
NikCFC
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12 Years Ago
well, no, it was not the Dremel, I did not hit the surface with the tool, but, does the carbon dust...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
It almost looks like the epoxy is not cured to a hard state and the sanding dust is fusing into the...
fgayford
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]fgayford (05/06/2013)[/b][hr]It almost looks like the epoxy is not cured to a hard state...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]fgayford (05/06/2013)[/b][hr]It almost looks like the epoxy is not cured to a hard state...
CarbonMike
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]CarbonMike (23/06/2013)[/b][hr][quote][b]fgayford (05/06/2013)[/b][hr]It almost looks like...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (05/06/2013)[/b][hr]well, no, it was not the Dremel, I did not hit the surface...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]carboncactus (05/06/2013)[/b][hr] The epoxy layer is going to be very tough. If you...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
And whats wrong with this forum? it keeps putting comments INSIDE the quote! :angry:
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
same problem with quotes by the way ;)
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Looking at that last picture....... Take a heat gun to the surface for a couple of minutes. I have...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
I would go for the same theory as fred... I mostly wait 2 days before sanding epoxy... mostly I even...
matthieutje65
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]matthieutje65 (05/06/2013)[/b][hr]I would go for the same theory as fred... I mostly wait...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]carboncactus (05/06/2013)[/b][hr]Looking at that last picture....... Take a heat gun to...
fgayford
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]fgayford (14/06/2013)[/b][hr][quote][b]carboncactus (05/06/2013)[/b][hr]Looking at that...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Your vacuum was good, as there is no pinholes. Unless vacuum was lost after gellation Does the...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]carboncactus (14/06/2013)[/b][hr]Your vacuum was good, as there is no pinholes. Unless...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
No the heat gun trick is only for uncured epoxy laminates. Get a smackhead needle on eBay, lay the...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
Did you use any spray adhesive,I have seen this on similar parts if so can be sanded and clear...
Shaneer22
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Shaneer22 (05/06/2013)[/b][hr]Did you use any spray adhesive,I have seen this on similar...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Sounds like the sanding dust is showing up defects or your parts could do with a little longer to...
Warren (Staff)
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12 Years Ago
All right Warren, I'll pay attention to the temperature, and especially I will leave the part to...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Ok so this time I've added sprayed GC50 gel coat, and waited for 2 days before demolding (no post...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Do it the other way round. When the resin reaches the vac outlet and all the cloth is wet with resin...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
But why can't I find this by myself ?? Oh, I know, because YOU're the boss ! ;) I'll try this...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Ha Ha trust me I have learnt the hard way :crying:
wozza
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12 Years Ago
Have you tested your vacuum pump to see if it pulls a bar? And did you do a drop test? I can't...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]carboncactus (10/06/2013)[/b][hr]Have you tested your vacuum pump to see if it pulls a...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Test your pump by plugging it straight to your gauge. Yea, the bubbles are there because they are...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
yeah, I can only imagnie. thanks for sharing :) (@ warren)
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Yeah, the tiny bubbles I see are stuck to the tows. Sorry if I get you wrong but, what you're...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
No sorry, I was talking about your first part, the one you didn't use GC50 on. Degrease it and watch...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (11/06/2013)[/b][hr]Yeah, the tiny bubbles I see are stuck to the tows. Sorry...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
It's crystal clear now :D
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
I do trust you. :D last time, what I did was probably stupid : I first sprayed a layer of GC50....
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
If you want a perfect looking part then leave the resin feed line open as I suggested. If you want...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
Copy that ! :) what is wrong with the double coating ? delamination ? the two coats can't bind so...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (11/06/2013)[/b][hr]Copy that ! :) what is wrong with the double coating ?...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
That really makes sense. I did not yet touch the pressure tuning knob on the gun. I only set the...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (11/06/2013)[/b][hr]That really makes sense. I did not yet touch the pressure...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
The spray seems strong to me (almost too much I'd say, but only a feeling though). My compressor is...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Not easy to tell from those pictures but you dont' appear to be a million miles away. The "blobs"...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
^^ yeah, those are very valuable tricks, I really appreciate you sharing those, thank you !!!...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
No problem I was only joking, happy to help. Carbon is expensive and given the time element it can...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
mmm, 'm bit disappointed about my compressor, thought it was well dimensionned, but it has the...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Your compressor may well be ok for a bonnet? just make sure you only spray a small area at a time,...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
Ok, I see what you mean; thanks Warren :)
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Ok so now I have a good surface finish, At least, no bubbles anymore (I let the resin flow some time...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (14/06/2013)[/b][hr]Ok so now I have a good surface finish, At least, no bubbles...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
Dr House party ^^
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Thank you Warren for your suppor :) In this case I assure you it is not a bridging problem, the...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (16/06/2013)[/b][hr]Thank you Warren for your suppor :) In this case I assure...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
I use 3M super spray 77. Not perfect I know... It's the only one I can find :( (SprayZ still...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Ok 24 hours for the GC50 is ok but no longer ;) Ditch (stop using ) the spray tack. It is very...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
mmmm you're right, although I'm really carefull with applying a very light spray (knowing it might...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Unless the part is really complicated with lots of recesses and steep sides etc you should not...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
yep, should do that as well. It's a kind of (bad) habit I have, like if I was working with prepreg...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
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