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nick1
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Hey guys, just new to the forum however have recently been making a few different moulds (not yet pulled any parts but they all look good and nice and shinny).
I have however reached a bit of a problem when trying to make a mould for an engine component from a k20 Honda engine. My problem is the lines in the original part (see the attached pictures) there are three lines which go across and i don't wont them on my finished part, i have tried filling them with the filleting wax but you can still tell they were there on the mould. Also i just put some filleting wax in the holes which secure the part to the car, is this the done thing? i obviously will be drilling them out on the final part when i pull it from the mould so not much of an issue.
Anyway thanks for reading any help would be appreciated
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Warren (Staff)
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On a flat object like that and will very good release agents and good preparation you can do recesses if they are shallow. Obviously you would fill the hole itself leaving just the countersunk recess.
A prime example is the recess on our subaru alternator cover:
And the shallower ones on our MR2 engine cover:
So it is possible to mould them and get a successful repeatable release.
The practicality of getting the carbon to stick exactly where you want it means it would be very hard to do those parts wetlay or resin infused, however pre-preg is dead easy as you can cut the fabric to any shape and it easily sticks where you want. Also lots of brute force can be used with blunt tools to force it into corners, the same kind of force that would shread normal fabrics.
If you wanted to do such things wetlay or infused then you would find it much easier with a
ProFinish Carbon Fibre 2/2 Twill
ProFinish Carbon Fibre 2/2 Twill
and some form of spray tack or applying when resin is tacky. ProFinish can be neatly cut like pre-pregs and wont fall apart like normal fabrics do, so you can do some quite precise work with them.
Warren Penalver
Easy Composites / Carbon Mods - Technical Support Assistant
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Warren (Staff) (07/06/2013)
On a flat object like that and will very good release agents and good preparation you can do recesses if they are shallow. Obviously you would fill the hole itself leaving just the countersunk recess.
A prime example is the recess on our subaru alternator cover:
Hi Warren
Were these parts made with prepreg or the Profinish carbon and infused?
Also, is this a clearcoat finish? They look real nice by the way!
Thanks
Fred
And the shallower ones on our MR2 engine cover:
So it is possible to mould them and get a successful repeatable release.
The practicality of getting the carbon to stick exactly where you want it means it would be very hard to do those parts wetlay or resin infused, however pre-preg is dead easy as you can cut the fabric to any shape and it easily sticks where you want. Also lots of brute force can be used with blunt tools to force it into corners, the same kind of force that would shread normal fabrics.
If you wanted to do such things wetlay or infused then you would find it much easier with a
ProFinish Carbon Fibre 2/2 Twill
ProFinish Carbon Fibre 2/2 Twill
and some form of spray tack or applying when resin is tacky. ProFinish can be neatly cut like pre-pregs and wont fall apart like normal fabrics do, so you can do some quite precise work with them.
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nick1
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12 Years Ago
Do you need to re use the original cover ? if not fill the groves with body filler and seal with a...
carbonfibreworks
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[quote][b]Bartonphoenix750 (04/06/2013)[/b][hr]Do you need to re use the original cover ? if not...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
I notice the holes are countersunk. You might need to get washers and longer screws to secure the...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
Sorry for digging this up again, but i notice that a few companies offer this part with the same...
nick1
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12 Years Ago
Thank you all for all your help, will have a go with the body filler as i don't actually need the...
nick1
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12 Years Ago
The fixing recesses will almost certainly have been made separately and then bonded on afterwards. (...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
thanks for your help :D was scratching my head for ages thinking about this. mould making tomorrow...
nick1
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12 Years Ago
If you are sacrificing the original you could cut them off and bond them onto the new CF one. There...
wozza
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12 Years Ago
On a flat object like that and will very good release agents and good preparation you can do...
Warren (Staff)
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Warren (Staff) (07/06/2013)[/b][hr]On a flat object like that and will very good release...
fgayford
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12 Years Ago
The part in the second photo you showed (epfibre), is a pretty crap effort. Although they are both...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
Been lucky enough to have been invited on a couple of courses at EC, one of which was pre preg. So I...
wozza
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