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Anyone tried a reusable silicone vacuum bag?
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jamesw
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Anyone tried this before? Have a look for: EZ~Spray® Silicone 20
For those of us making multiple parts, it looks really good...
Would be good to hear of anyone using it, and if EC would recommend it?
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Drew, How did things turn out?
Did you give latex a try?
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Yo. Sorry, I haven't posted here in a while. Haven't posted anywhere in a while really, because I've been busy working my ass off.
I tried latex, it's not going to work. It sticks, it smells bad, it off-gasses inconsistently in the same way latex paint behaves.
I've had mixed successes with platinum cure silicone. First off, the stuff is expensive no matter from whom you buy it. It's also subject to cure inhibition, where it doesn't set up in the when coming into contact with certain materials, such as other types of rubber.
However, there are blends that are stretchy and durable. My record so far is making seven bicycle handlebars from a single pressure bladder before it finally ruptured. The behavior to avoid is what I call "tunneling", where your carbon preform deforms unexpectedly under pressure, and allows the bladder to expand too far in an isolated zone. This expansion can be held for about two hours.
The point is, if you're doing pressure molding with a bladder, and you're new to it, it can be super frustrating to identify ways that a well made bladder might get killed simply by asking it to do too-hard of a job.
I haven't needed to do it for vacuum bags myself yet, but I could totally see how the material would indeed make a fine vacuum bag. Something similar was a set of gaskets I made for some custom, very-small-size vacuum catch pots. Something you'll have to keep in mind with vacuum bag use is that this silicone has mixed behavior in terms of its abrasion and tackiness with other materials. For instance, mastic / tacky vacuum tape doesn't stick to this stuff at all. Might as well bounce off.
You can see the kinda parts I'm able to make with silicone bladders at the site I put up recently,
http://www.regular.bike/
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Anyone tried a reusable silicone vacuum bag?
jamesw
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12 Years Ago
I'm going to try this out soon... it indeed looks like a great technique to make more parts
matthieutje65
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12 Years Ago
Post up the results!
jamesw
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12 Years Ago
I ordered Smooth-On's test batch ... for making inflation semi-bladders, instead of vac bags. For...
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
I'm doing a test of this stuff combined with a polystyrene plug that I'm going to dissolve with...
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
Thx for the info, keep us updated ;) I'll start soon, once my first parts come out of the mould,...
matthieutje65
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12 Years Ago
Drew - what was this product name from Smooth-on? Thanks Jim
JaWillis
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11 Years Ago
I had some real bonehead moments regarding the inflation neck - it was leaky, or it would tear out,...
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
How far did sample go I want to make a mold for air filter cover?
capnez
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12 Years Ago
Well, this silicone bladder test didn't go so well - my result had wall thicknesses that were too...
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
drew thats the process we use in industry, i work in design of composite bicycles in fact 20 years...
compositepro
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12 Years Ago
"Ps your not the guy who's experimenting at argonaut?" Hey, thanks for the advice compositepro! I...
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Drew Diller (14/07/2013)[/b][hr]"Ps your not the guy who's experimenting at argonaut?"...
compositepro
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12 Years Ago
Hello Well you have knowledge that we would all like to learn from. Could you post some pictures and...
fgayford
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12 Years Ago
No I don't go on velocipede - first I'd heard of it actually. I can give you a quick background on...
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Drew Diller (14/07/2013)[/b][hr]No I don't go on velocipede - first I'd heard of it...
compositepro
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12 Years Ago
Funny, your words on the "claiming its NEW" end of things... I was involved in helping prototype...
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
IME ive seen a fair few go down with an idea when a big company has steamrollered them ,morally its...
compositepro
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12 Years Ago
IME = In My Experience? Yeah I know what you mean - funny thing, I had some guys do some handy man...
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
IME yep In my experience Plasti dip is like a coating over here in the UK for putting nice...
compositepro
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12 Years Ago
Wow that stuff is CHEAP, half the cost of latex! And available locally. I'll play around with it....
Drew Diller
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12 Years Ago
The green stuff is EZ-Brush vac bag silicone - http://www.smooth-on.com/index.php?cPath=1340 You...
Drew Diller
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11 Years Ago
Watching with interest! Please post up any success in you technique!
20_rc51_00
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11 Years Ago
Drew, How did things turn out? Did you give latex a try?
20_rc51_00
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9 Years Ago
@20_rc51_00 Yo. Sorry, I haven't posted here in a while. Haven't posted anywhere in a while...
Drew Diller
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9 Years Ago
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