Pattern coat primer application


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Hanaldo
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Yeh it's a pity that Duratec products are so hard to get hold of. I've actually lost my supplier here too, they no longer sell it, so I'm on the search for an alternative. Have found a high build PU that may be similar, so will see how it goes. 
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Has anyone had any experience using Durabuild? Wondered what peoples experiences were vs using Pattern Coat Primer. Always used Durabuild myself but have a tin of PC primer sat there waiting for my usual Durabuild to run out.

We've also used Llewellyn Rylands pattern primer which I actually prefer to Durabuild. We apply all systems by spray to reduce sanding operations
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That's very interesting what you're saying Ian Mantula,  and the rest of the members all basically saying the same thing.  I was quite surprised myself when I began applying the Pattern-Coat Coat Primer ....... still am ........ as I'm now on my 20th coat !

I have to admit that I should really have built my MDF plug a little closer to the dimensions I required,  by adding a little polyester body filler.  But as I went by the products data sheet,  which indicated that it brushed on at 1mm to 1.5mm thickness ....... not likely !  It took me by surprise as it's more like regular paint !



Here's where I am at the moment with my project >  http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064&page=150



I still think it's great stuff,  but an awful lot of work to get right  >>

 







I'm not using my plugs for fibreglassing but for vacuum forming,  one thing I can say is,  the finish I currently have is solid,  almost like slate  !  Wink



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Why are you not filling the low spots with body filler? 
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Hanaldo (12/11/2015)
Why are you not filling the low spots with body filler? 




Hi Hanaldo,

Good question,  normally that would be the way to go ........  but at the stage where I'm currently at ( 20 odd coats of pattern-coat primer ) I can't ....... or rather I'm afraid to 'undo' all the work I've already done.

If I were hand laying or bagging carbon fibre I think it wouldn't matter,  but I'm using my plugs as 'tooling plugs' for vacuum forming.  As that process involves subjecting the plugs to high heat,  the build-up of pattern-coat primer acts as a shell if you like,  as pattern-coat primer has aluminium in it.  If I go and fill the low spots with body filler now,  I'll only create weak spots in that heat resistant 'shell'.  I've had issues in the past with thin layers of polyester filler cracking due to heat,  so I really don't want to risk it at this stage,  so I'm having to use the pattern-coat primer as a filler as it were.



As the OP was commenting on the pattern-coat primer as a product,  I thought I had to pitch-in with my findings ........  that is to say,  it doesn't actually do what it pertains on the Data Sheet !

It's seen as a very high viscosity primer almost like syrup,  so a couple of coats of pattern-coat primer and you're done. 
I can assure that is not the case ......... it may become thicker in the last two minutes of it's pot life,  but the initial mixture is more like regular emulsion paint.  



I had to build up my plugs by 2mm as they have to fit inside a bracket,  so with the Data Sheet I concluded that 2 coats of 1mm each would be enough ........ it's taken 20 coats to get to that stage !



Don't get me wrong,  I'm not complaining about the actual product as it's doing what I want it to.  But the Data Sheet information is very misleading  Angry


Next time I'll be looking for a different product,  something much thicker but also very durable as I have to able to vacuum form many many parts from it.




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