Is it possible to create molds and parts without gelcoat?


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mbntng291
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Hi Guys,

I'm just starting with composites fabrication and i would just like to ask if molds and parts can be made without tooling gelcoat.

Since i'm just a beginner, I don't want to be wasting materials such as gelcoat when I practice...and do parts made without gelcoat have the same quality as ones made with gelcoat?

Thanks Smile
Edited 11 Years Ago by mbntng291
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Nope, you can just use resin. Tooling gelcoat is just more durable, so don't expect your mould surfaces to last very long. Tooling gels are also quite thixotropic, so it can cling to vertical surfaces. If you're just using laminating resin then it will run off vertical faces and pool at the bottom. For one off, flat parts, you can get away without it. 

That said, personally I would at the very least use a filler like microballoons or fumed silica to thicken up your resin before using it as a gelcoat. You can also use just a regular polyester gelcoat, which is a bit cheaper and generally available in smaller quantities than a tooling gelcoat.
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I guess that you can answer your question yourself Smile 
We wouldnt be using a gelcoat if we could get the same results without.
Like said above It can be done but you will get bad results with dry spots, and pinholes if done without a gelcoat.
To be honest you would waste more money not using a gelcoat, than doing it the good way with a gelcoat.

Best of luck Wink

Matthieu Libeert
Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports
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www.mat2composites.com




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Speaking as a novice myself I would recommend you just pay the extra few quid (or dollars) and use gelcoat.
Working with gelcoat is a skill you need to learn too.
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Since gelcoat copies the surface of items being copied, is it necessary for the items being copied to be perfect (ie. smooth, scratch free, etc.) or can I just do the necessary corrections once it dries up and removed from the item?

I asked this because don't have the necessary tools needed to polish/paint the car parts I want to copy.

Thanks for the responses guys!Smile


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Yes. Your gelcoat will come out in the same condition as your plug surface. You can leave it and try to clean up the mould, the issue is that not only is it generally easier to sand the male (plug) version rather than the female (mould) version of the part, but gelcoats are by design extremely tough. Sanding them is a bitch. One can get rid of small defects on the mould surface by sanding and polishing, but to try to correct larger or more frequent imperfections is a tedious task indeed. You also run the risk of exposing microporosity bellow the surface of the mould, depending on the tooling system you use.

Do the prep on your plug. 
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Thanks Hanaldo!Smile
Edited 11 Years Ago by mbntng291
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