KEVLAR LAMINATES - trimming, edgework, drilling


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Hi to all.

After reading an almost 1 year old post from a memberfrustrated with cutting, drilling and edgework of Kevlar laminates, I thought Iwould join your clan and post the solutions I have employed while dealing witharamid.

If you are impatient or easily frustrated, find anothermaterial and read no further!

First of all, if you are using Kevlar, you are probably useFG, carbon and possibly other as well. DETICATEALL OF YOUR MACHINNING TOOLS (SHEARS, DRILL BITS, SANDPAPER, ect) FOR USE ONONLY ONE FABRIC, BOLDLY LABLE THEM, AND DO NOT MIX THEM UP!!! Edgeretention will improve 100 – 300%. Soak / clean them regularly in acetone evenif they are never exposed to epoxy.

CUTTING DRY ARAMIDFABRIC

For hand shears, the best by far are “Kai 7000 series”tailoring shears. Nice micro serrations to hold the fabric from slipping out,and edge retention is 5 times that of any other shears I have used. Well worththe $95.00 I paid for them from Soller Composites. Prices may be slightly lowerat trade shows. I use cheaper ones during lay-up though.

E.C.Cutter. Buy one at any cost, but buy one!!! Ittook me 2 years of doubting the praise of many before purchasing one. Ultralight, cordless, no hand fatigue after 8 hours of pattern cutting. I use it tocut just about everything including perf, bleeder, bag , as well as glass,carbon, and, yes Kevlar. Just order an extra “shoe” blade for each compositefabric and one more for everything else. A second battery is extremely handyalso. Some places charge more than $130.00, but places like Jamestown Distributorssell them for under $100.00.

TRIMMING CURED ARAMIDLAMINATES

Cutting

First of all, to reduce the “Kevlar Fluff” during the trimmingand edgework of an all-Kevlar laminate, consider laying a 1”-2” wide strip ofthin FG in the mold first where each edge of the laminate which will be trimmed.1.5oz style 1080 or 3oz style 120 really help to reduce the fluff and isvirtually invisable. Obviously, the entire first ply could be glass. If thelaminate is comprised of Kevlar and other fabrics, for God’s sake, PUT THEKEVLAR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LAMINATE!!!

If possible, and rather thin, consider de-molding thelaminate while still a bit “green” and cut to size with a simple utility knife,as long as you purchase replacement blades in boxes of 100. This is especiallyeffective used on flat laminates with straight cuts but awkward and evendangerous on curved pieces. It is impractical for most of my applications. Forthe flat, 11 ply alternating carbon / Kevlar laminate I need to cut in straightlines, I purchased a 10” table saw blade with 126 carbide tipped teeth ground10 degrees negative and make sure the fence is at least .063” wider at the farend to minimize heat buildup in the piece. It may not be the recommended method,but it works for approximately 200 lineal feet before needing to resharpen theblade. Hey, it’s Kevlar.

A band saw with a relatively fine toothed, bi-metal bladewill work but most composites, especially Kevlar, will kill the blade in rathershort order. The finest carbide toothed band saw blades I have found were 7 teeth/inch,and although I have not tried one, I cannot imagine it producing adequate results.

Typically, a standard jig saw with a metal cutting, 30 tpi bi-metalblade produce the best results on the kidney bean shaped tubular end cuts of myKevlar/carbon bear-resistant backpacks. I know the blade will need to bereplaced every 20-25 lineal feet going through the single or double, 8 plylaminate. Hey, it’s Kevlar. A few less tpi is better than more whichproduce more heat, and keep the blade moving as well for the same reason. Thecarbide grit blades might possibly be OK for carbon or FG but are patheticallyworthless on Kevlar.

Sanding

This the most tedious, time-consuming, boring, and generalpain-in-the-ass step in producing an aramid laminate. Hey, it’s Kevlar.

Post cure your laminate as hot as possible/practical. Heatcuring it will help it from softening with the heat generated while sanding andcutting also.

Heat build-up is your worst enemy while cutting, sanding, ordrilling an aramid laminate as it will soften the epoxy and not hold the fibersfirmly enough to be sheared. Instead, they lie over, fuzz and fluff up. Slowspeed and light to moderate feed are key and keep moving around the piece to allowthe high spots to cool.  I try to have 5or 6 pieces to alternate while sanding to allow them to stay as cool aspossible. Try to keep the direction of sanding parallel with the edge untilflat then chamfer at a +45 and   -45 degreeangle, starting from the surface going toward the edge. This will assiststretching the fibers into the laminate and severing them. NEVER GO BACK ANDFORTH!!! Do not consider using an orbital sander unless using 400 grit orfiner.

Although I was informed silicon-carbide grit was sharper andrequired less pressure than aluminum-oxide, the aluminum oxide seems to performbetter for me. I have been unable to locate ceramic grit discs for my 20”grinderwhich is supposed to be the way to go (other than price). I rarely use anythingmore aggressive 60 grit, then 100, 150, 220 and finish with 320 or 400. Whenall the fuzz is gone, I use a very thin foam roller to apply a coat of epoxy.It’s a lot of work, but Hey, it’s Kevlar.

All edges are exposed on the Wise Backpack, not onlyvisually, but to people’s skin and clothing to get snagged on if left rough. Hopefullyyour project does not require as much attention to the edges.

DRILLING

This is the easy one. Solid carbide, brad point drill bits!They perform best if the laminate is backed up with plastic or maybe even wood.Even if backing is impossible, they produce an exit hole with minimalsplintering. Fast speed with medium speed or firm pressure produces the bestresults for me. I purchase mine from McMaster-Carr. They are expensive, butthey work. Hey, it’s Kevlar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark T.


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Please excuse the poor read. I do not know what caused the spacing omissions after pasting.
I was hoping for feedback with others experiences and solutions. I am here to learn. Hey, it's Kevlar.
Mark T.

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I can't speak for others, but I am very grateful for sharing of information and experiences, especially when gained through blood and tears and loss of time and money.

Something I can contribute:
Be real anal about keeping shears separately. Mark them e.g. with electricians tape, yellow for kevlar, black for carbon and white for glass. I have successfully used regular household shears for kevlar after grinding one side with a coarse wheel. Might not last for long and requires regrinding often, but it works.
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Brainfart, thanks for responding. Hopefully, others will follow. Apparently you have learned to keep separate shears for each fabric also. I used to sharpen my own shears but it was always hit and miss getting that prefect angle. I'm sure your "coarse grind" works well to keep the fabric from sliding out of the shears. I love my Kai shears. They are just now starting to dull at bit after cutting more than 2,000 lineal feet of 6oz Kevlar. But, since buying it, I use the E.C. cutter most of the time just because it is almost effortless.
Mark T.
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Very good post kidpit, thanks. 

I also have separate shears for different fabrics. I've got my Kai shears from Soller Composites as well, which are my kevlar only shears. Then my Easy Composites shears are for carbon fibre only, and I just use regular poultry scissors for glass because they are cheap and easy easy to sharpen. 
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Hanaldo, I appreciate the reply. If you haven't used the cordless E.C. Cutter, treat yourself and get one. While I consider sharpening the blade assembly best left to qualified others, the shipping and waiting downfalls pail in comparison to the ease of which they cut almost all of my composite needs. The only place I do not use them is during wet lay-up.
Mark T.
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I have been considering one. What is the edge retention like when using them for composites.
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Hanaldo,
Sorry I can't tell you how often the blades need sharpening,,,,,, I haven't had to have one sharpened yet!!! My Kevlar blade has cut approximately 900 lineal feet of 5oz 4HS Kevlar, the carbon blade maybe 500 feet, the "everything else" blade (FG, perf, bag, bleeder, nose hairs ect.), hard to say but at least 500 feet. Admittedly, the Kevlar blade is not quite as crisp as it was new (less than 10% off) but I seriously doubt it will need to be sharpened before another 900 feet. I honestly think the E.C. Cutter blade will cut more lineal feet than my Kai 7000 before sharpening. But their long edge retention is only part of their beauty. They are so light and easy to use, I get NO hand fatigue whatsoever, and my hands are junk! I can pattern cut nonstop, all day with the E.C. but have to rest my hand every 30 minutes when using shears. The certified bear-resistant backpack I build are 7 plys and require pattern cutting 15" X 21" kidney bean shapes of Kevlar and CF. After tracing the pattern on the rolled out fabric, I can cut all the way around the kidney bean shape from the same side of the table without turning the fabric. Try cutting toward yourself with conventional shears! By the way, I do not own stock in the company.
Mark T.
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Well if I ever need to cut more than 900 lineal feet of Kevlar I'll consider myself a success and a new set of blades would probably be in the budget! Haha. Interesting stuff, I shall look into them more. I'm assuming they give a nice neat cut, or do they take a bit of practice before you can use them without pulling fibres? 
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Hanaldo,
Just point and shoot. The cut edge with the E.C.Cutter is just as crisp and clean as with the Kai shears. PLUS it leaves no offset step on the edge of the fabric between each squeeze of the shears, greatly reducing loose ends and distorted weaves. Not only do they cut almost anything exceptionally well, they do it with Kevlar as well. I probably have some goofy smile on my face while cutting fabric now that I own a habitually use the E.C. Cutter.
It appears most of people on this site are from the UK and Europe and this site headed by Easy Composites. Is that the case?
Mark T.
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