coating resin degassing - whats going wrong ?


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Prior to applying a finishing layer of coating resin i thought it would be a good idea to degass it as ive been getting micro bubbles that collect polish.
However for me the degassing process seems to add more bubbles than it get rid of.

Curently Im poring this resin by hand, "tipping out" with a brush and then using a heat gun to pop bubbles. which is OK but id like to degass first.

here are some pics.
Mixed Coating Resin prior to de-gassing
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/7b252634-0ad5-4da5-b346-5701.jpg


Resin during degassing - i left it like this for 2 or 3 minutes until the bubbles collapsed - then locked off the pump and vented the chamber

http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/9a8334d0-9548-4521-867f-8462.jpg

vacum reading
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/785240ee-5afa-4098-9df3-3e05.jpg

resin after venting ....
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/3476e251-3375-4d22-92bc-192c.jpg


after waiting 5 mins to see if the bubbles float out....

http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/c5946ef6-03e0-46ef-aae2-952c.jpg

i tried degassing it again and again but it didnt improve, so after an hour, by which time it had started to warm warm up. i  binned it and used the old method.

What is going wrong ?

Thanks

Ben
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The pot your using is not helping use a wider mixing pot and decant into a shallow tray if your using wet 
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Shaneer22 (20/09/2013)
The pot your using is not helping use a wider mixing pot and decant into a shallow tray if your using wet 
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Thanks Shaneer, I will try to find a wider pot, Things ive read on other forums seem to suggest that high surface tension is to blame, so i wider pot will i guess help that help that in the simplest physical way. EC Coating resin is very thick so in also going to try it sightly warmer, although i always worry about reducing pot life when i do that.
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Is it possible that this is not enough vacuum ?

Ben
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Another way to help is use a resin or hardener with a longer open time,when I infuse I use a harderner with a 3hour pot life which give me after mixing,15 to 20 minutes degasing time which depending on temperature usually give Krystal clear resin 
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Thanks for the advise, what i cant get over however is that although my vacuum level seems really good on the gauge my process never looks as thorough or violent as in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sN0KT-tRsY

does degassing usually work this well ?

Ben
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The resin in the video looks like it is low viscosity unlike the high viscosity coating resin, try to take your time when you stir the resin as being too quick can introduce air bubbles.
Regards Chris
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