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Jess8bit
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Hi Guys,
I've just experienced my first mold making using Uni-Mould system. My project it to CF copy the "B Pillars" covers of the VW Golf 6 car.
These parts are made of plastic, with a glossy black finish.
So I made a mould this way :
- 4 layers of EC Chemical Release Agent, 30 mn between each
- 1 layer of Model 6 release wax, buffed.
- 1 coat of Tooling GC
- 2 slices of 80g CSM with the Coupling Coat
- 2 slices of 450g CSM with the Tooling Resin.
Demolding was quite straight forward.
Here the problem :
To restore the initial gloss of my part, I used EC Mould Cleaner and lint free wipes to clean the part surface, which was initialy covered by the release agent.
But all I get is a kind of dull, even whitish in some places, surface. Can't get my gloss back. What happened ?
Thanks for helping, I'm afraid I have damaged the part surface but don't know why... as if the release agent, or the mold cleaner, had attacked the gloss...
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carbonfibreworks
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Hi Jess8bit
It looks like the gel coat had not cured enough before you used the coupling coat, if you use the times given on the EC bonnet video you should not have any issues (assuming you have the correct ambient temperature)
Regards Chris
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Hi Chris, thanks for your contribution
Yes, I really suspect I did not wait enough. It's about 20° in my workshop. I guess a good 3h30 curing time would not be too much (if I remember well, I waited for 3h).
I really hope this is the source of all my concerns, cause that one can be solved pretty easily
I will give feedback once I'll have done new moulds.
Regards,
Jess
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carboncactus
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4-6 hours minimum, even overnight. I think you gelcoat might also have been too thin. It needs to be half a mil thick and hard enough so that the CMS doesnt print through.
Another note, I would have used release wax only, not a semi permanent, and certainly not both.
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Jess8bit (17/05/2013)
Hi Chris, thanks for your contribution
Yes, I really suspect I did not wait enough. It's about 20° in my workshop. I guess a good 3h30 curing time would not be too much (if I remember well, I waited for 3h).
I really hope this is the source of all my concerns, cause that one can be solved pretty easily
I will give feedback once I'll have done new moulds.
Regards,
Jess
I leave the tooling gel coat over night and the EC system has worked fine, it is always tempting to try and speed the job up but patience is needed
I am the same when it comes to removing parts from the mould but I have leaned to control my excitement .
Regards Chris
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1st time Uni-Mould mold making : how to clean the part ?
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
huh huh :) no answers :) Some more details : - I see the "drawing" of light CSM printed through...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Hi Jess8bit It looks like the gel coat had not cured enough before you used the coupling coat, if...
carbonfibreworks
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12 Years Ago
Hi Chris, thanks for your contribution :) Yes, I really suspect I did not wait enough. It's about...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
4-6 hours minimum, even overnight. I think you gelcoat might also have been too thin. It needs to be...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (17/05/2013)[/b][hr]Hi Chris, thanks for your contribution :) Yes, I really...
carbonfibreworks
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12 Years Ago
Ok Guys, I definitely was too optimistic, I need too wait much more time than I thought. Thank you...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
Hi J I use easy lease only and no wax,3 to4 applications seem to work for me and I make sure the...
carbonfibreworks
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12 Years Ago
Ok, seems the wax is not a popular candidate then :D Thank you Chris :) Jess
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (18/05/2013)[/b][hr]Ok, seems the wax is not a popular candidate then :D Thank...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
Hello, The best mould making gelcoat ever is Epoxy gelcoat, as we know hard finish, gloss, and...
Leon
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12 Years Ago
Ok :) I only use resin infusion with vaccum bagging. So you would suggest not to use chemical...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
[quote][b]Jess8bit (26/05/2013)[/b][hr]Ok :) I only use resin infusion with vaccum bagging. So...
carboncactus
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12 Years Ago
Ok I'll use wax only for making the next mould, then chem. rel. agent for making the part :) I'll...
Jess8bit
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12 Years Ago
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