Brake cooling duct fabrication question


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Hello all, Im new to the forum and new to making composite parts. I have made a couple of splitter vents for a race car of mine and now am working on brake cooling ducts for the front air dam. 

My question is how to lay up the carbon fiber to ensure a reasonable release from the mold. It currently looks like this:




I was thinking I could lay it up (after sanding and smoothing of course), as is, vacuum bag it, and essentially make it as one piece. But as I read a couple of other posts on this forum I started to second guess myself. Any suggestions from the collective?

Thanks in advance!

  
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If you're happy with the basic shape, in that it doesn't pose the risk of a mechanical lock, after sanding back the filler/bondo it would probably be best lay a couple of light fibreglass layers over the pattern

Even if well coated with a suitable paint system, filler/bondo is likely to pull away when it comes to creating an initial mould so the fibreglass skin will add some strength. Once the fibreglass has been roughly sanded, a thin skim of filler can then be used to create a surface smooth enough to apply a top coat. 

The pattern coat primer and hi-coat gloss system that EC sells would be ideal, but some other kind of coating that can bond well to the bare pattern and provide a reliable release surface, after flatting and polishing, depending upon what's available where you are will also work

This will give you a female mould from which you can then create your final male mould using a tooling gel coat and fibreglass reinforcement
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MarkMK - 10/24/2019 9:22:35 AM
If you're happy with the basic shape, in that it doesn't pose the risk of a mechanical lock, after sanding back the filler/bondo it would probably be best lay a couple of light fibreglass layers over the pattern

Even if well coated with a suitable paint system, filler/bondo is likely to pull away when it comes to creating an initial mould so the fibreglass skin will add some strength. Once the fibreglass has been roughly sanded, a thin skim of filler can then be used to create a surface smooth enough to apply a top coat. 

The pattern coat primer and hi-coat gloss system that EC sells would be ideal, but some other kind of coating that can bond well to the bare pattern and provide a reliable release surface, after flatting and polishing, depending upon what's available where you are will also work

This will give you a female mould from which you can then create your final male mould using a tooling gel coat and fibreglass reinforcement

Thanks for the replies everyone!

I should have mentioned that I didn't plan on just laying the carbon fiber over the bondo. I'm still in the planning stages and thought I might put some gelcoat, or another paint like covering on it prior to laying the carbon down. I like the idea of the fiberglass to add some structure to the mold and having resin layer to lay up upon.

I'll keep everyone updated with how everything goes!

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             Thank you, that's very helpful!
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             Thanks! That's a good suggestion!
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